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>I recently heard they are now considering to move their code base from svn to git, and write some test code to stabilize the firmware that goes into the ssd pr

>I recently heard they are now considering to move their code base from svn to git, and write some test code to stabilize the firmware that goes into the ssd products. >I don't think I can explain in short how a mediocre developer who never actually coded something into reality got a degree, and got a job in allegedly the biggest company in south korea... All I can say it is a complex korean thing that requires some cultural understanding of our society. Are you sure it's a Korean thing, and not just a hardware-company thing? Even in the west, hardware companies are notorious for having terrible software development practices / UX. Perhaps the sole exception is Apple, and this has allowed them to dominate (compare iOS to the crapware OEMs like Samsung bundle with phones).

totorovirus 7y ago
Do apple hire CS majors who never did a project in any language? Probably not..
- Der_Einzige 7y ago
  Intel sure does - and they're more of a hardware company than Apple is...
  - strategarius 7y ago
    However, probably their candidates have to show some projects with electronics and FPGA. Again, Intel has lots of "pure software" development, for example their own compiler, profiler, debugger and rest of similar tools, bundled into IDE.
- ChuckNorris89 7y ago
  Are you saying that in Korea one can be a CS major and have never done a single SW project in any language? Sorry, I find that hard to believe.
  - totorovirus 7y ago
    In a mediocre university you learn how to run a VMware virtual machine in OS class and that's it.
  - totorovirus 7y ago
    One of my friend didn't submit his project for Operating System course, still got an A-. He doesn't know anything about seg fault handling or process scheduling. How did he get an A-? Because companies are looking for good GPAs rather than what actually the candidate knows. Students complain if they get low grades because it may screw up his career. Since universities are competing for hire rate after graduation (unemployment is serious in south korea) they press professors to give them good grades as possible.
strategarius 7y ago
It's Korean (probably also Japanese) thing. My friend attended their interview, said there were little to no technical questions, but he has been asked to create "self-presentation". He was hired. Samsung produces tons of software quite far from near-hardware level, for example Java and C++ applications for their own version of Android.
- sgift 7y ago
  I think the jury is still out whether asking technical questions (Is that code for whiteboard interviews?) is really a good idea. Seems Samsungs interview process is just different (probably also bad. All interviewing seems to be bad).

totorovirus 7y ago

Do apple hire CS majors who never did a project in any language? Probably not..

Der_Einzige 7y ago
Intel sure does - and they're more of a hardware company than Apple is...
- strategarius 7y ago
  However, probably their candidates have to show some projects with electronics and FPGA. Again, Intel has lots of "pure software" development, for example their own compiler, profiler, debugger and rest of similar tools, bundled into IDE.
ChuckNorris89 7y ago
Are you saying that in Korea one can be a CS major and have never done a single SW project in any language? Sorry, I find that hard to believe.
- totorovirus 7y ago
  In a mediocre university you learn how to run a VMware virtual machine in OS class and that's it.
- totorovirus 7y ago
  One of my friend didn't submit his project for Operating System course, still got an A-. He doesn't know anything about seg fault handling or process scheduling. How did he get an A-? Because companies are looking for good GPAs rather than what actually the candidate knows. Students complain if they get low grades because it may screw up his career. Since universities are competing for hire rate after graduation (unemployment is serious in south korea) they press professors to give them good grades as possible.

strategarius 7y ago

It's Korean (probably also Japanese) thing. My friend attended their interview, said there were little to no technical questions, but he has been asked to create "self-presentation". He was hired. Samsung produces tons of software quite far from near-hardware level, for example Java and C++ applications for their own version of Android.

sgift 7y ago
I think the jury is still out whether asking technical questions (Is that code for whiteboard interviews?) is really a good idea. Seems Samsungs interview process is just different (probably also bad. All interviewing seems to be bad).