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This is my own personal experience. 1. Commuting is exhausting and can easily add between 2-4 hours a day for long commuters (10-20 hours a week). 2. Work can

This is my own personal experience. 1. Commuting is exhausting and can easily add between 2-4 hours a day for long commuters (10-20 hours a week). 2. Work can be exhausting, it can feel like you just wake up to go back to sleep. Those 8 hours not sleeping I’ve felt a ghost of my self. 3. There is almost always some expectation of availability to work outside of those hours. I moved to part time / freelance and it has been an enormous quality of life improvement.

fjeifisjf 6y ago
#1 is a poor lifestyle choice. #3 is poor self control and spinelessness in negotiating working schedule.
- greedo 6y ago
  Not everyone has the skills and leverage to negotiate a schedule that actually suits them best. In most employee/employer relationships, the employer has far more leverage to dictate work schedules and conditions. Being in this situation is caused neither by a lack of self control, or by spinelessness.
  - Spooky23 6y ago
    If you’re in a tech role, it’s insane. Unless you’re getting paid some crazy premium amount or have other handcuffs like a contract or defined benefit pension, there is no reason to stay.
    - iovrthoughtthis 6y ago
      A lot of the decisions humans make aren't reasonable, as in there is no reason behind them, they are emotional.
- iovrthoughtthis 6y ago
  #1 Not all choices lead to valid solutions given a set of constraints, this can lead to non-optimal solutions. #3 I personally see the reality that knowledge work and life blend a bit more at the edges than traditional factory work and can accept the need for work outside of the standard hours . It's the existence of this adaptation in working time alongside the other issues I highlighted that makes it a problem. We're in the middle of changing work and these are teething issues. I find your reply overly simple, inconsiderate and from a place of privilege.

fjeifisjf 6y ago

#1 is a poor lifestyle choice. #3 is poor self control and spinelessness in negotiating working schedule.

greedo 6y ago
Not everyone has the skills and leverage to negotiate a schedule that actually suits them best. In most employee/employer relationships, the employer has far more leverage to dictate work schedules and conditions. Being in this situation is caused neither by a lack of self control, or by spinelessness.
- Spooky23 6y ago
  If you’re in a tech role, it’s insane. Unless you’re getting paid some crazy premium amount or have other handcuffs like a contract or defined benefit pension, there is no reason to stay.
  - iovrthoughtthis 6y ago
    A lot of the decisions humans make aren't reasonable, as in there is no reason behind them, they are emotional.
iovrthoughtthis 6y ago
#1 Not all choices lead to valid solutions given a set of constraints, this can lead to non-optimal solutions. #3 I personally see the reality that knowledge work and life blend a bit more at the edges than traditional factory work and can accept the need for work outside of the standard hours . It's the existence of this adaptation in working time alongside the other issues I highlighted that makes it a problem. We're in the middle of changing work and these are teething issues. I find your reply overly simple, inconsiderate and from a place of privilege.