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I think we'll have to wait for the end of this to see which strategy has been effective and which one has not. Sweden might not be at a plateau yet and turn in

by koyote 7y ago

I think we'll have to wait for the end of this to see which strategy has been effective and which one has not. Sweden might not be at a plateau yet and turn into the UK in a couple of weeks time. Or they are indeed at a plateau and they will reach herd immunity with minimal societal and economical damage. Other countries with hard lockdowns might look good in comparison to Sweden at the moment but might have a hard-hitting second wave. Whatever the outcome, we won't know until this is over. Which is why I am not a big fan of comparing 'effectiveness' at this early stage.

DeonPenny 7y ago
Or countries with hard lock down could look worse. Locking young people with the sick and old could be killing more people than it saved, but I doubt we'd release that study
ivanonymous 7y ago
That framing implies that all the relevant actors have committed to strategies that they'll see through to the end. Learning from what's happening in Sweden should help guide decisions elsewhere. The process of comparison is messy and politicized and in some sense always potentially premature, but I don't think for all that it should be forsworn.
monkeydreams 7y ago
> Which is why I am not a big fan of comparing 'effectiveness' at this early stage. The state broadcaster in Australia (ABC) broadcast an hour-long episode of their program "Foreign Correspondent" in which the Singaporean government were granted a platform to explain how their approach was far more civilised and liberal, with better results and more freedoms than the efforts of Australia. They prated on and on about the benefits of their system of both disease control and government trust and how low their disease numbers and civilian discontent was. The disease control aspect has not aged well.
kjaftaedi 7y ago
I don't think there is a one size fits all strategy. Sweden's strategy can work for them because it relies on the public to make the correct choices.. which can work when people observe hygiene rules, social distancing, etc. But this sort of strategy can't work with if you have a population that isn't willing to actively participate in minimizing the risk.

by koyote 7y ago

DeonPenny 7y ago

Or countries with hard lock down could look worse. Locking young people with the sick and old could be killing more people than it saved, but I doubt we'd release that study

ivanonymous 7y ago

That framing implies that all the relevant actors have committed to strategies that they'll see through to the end. Learning from what's happening in Sweden should help guide decisions elsewhere. The process of comparison is messy and politicized and in some sense always potentially premature, but I don't think for all that it should be forsworn.

monkeydreams 7y ago

> Which is why I am not a big fan of comparing 'effectiveness' at this early stage. The state broadcaster in Australia (ABC) broadcast an hour-long episode of their program "Foreign Correspondent" in which the Singaporean government were granted a platform to explain how their approach was far more civilised and liberal, with better results and more freedoms than the efforts of Australia. They prated on and on about the benefits of their system of both disease control and government trust and how low their disease numbers and civilian discontent was. The disease control aspect has not aged well.

kjaftaedi 7y ago

I don't think there is a one size fits all strategy. Sweden's strategy can work for them because it relies on the public to make the correct choices.. which can work when people observe hygiene rules, social distancing, etc. But this sort of strategy can't work with if you have a population that isn't willing to actively participate in minimizing the risk.