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OK, I guess it's a problem with no known solution, even though EV sales are climbing nicely. Me, I've owned an EV for 6 years, and live in an apartment. 6 year

OK, I guess it's a problem with no known solution, even though EV sales are climbing nicely. Me, I've owned an EV for 6 years, and live in an apartment. 6 years ago the pessimistic estimate was that what has actually happened today is impossible.

chiefalchemist 6y ago
Time is the solution. Gas stations weren't everwhere overnight. To this day they require a tanker fuel truck to deliver more inventory. On the other hand, the network for electricity is already in place. Distribution and refilling are "automated." EV needs a bit more time. The stars are there. They will alight soon enough.
- erik_seaberg 6y ago
  This. I was responding to > filling network is already in place when the last mile needs a couple hundred million charging points (with grid to supply them concurrently) and so far building them out has barely started. This is the entire reason I'm still burning gasoline for a couple of years; I can't rely on finding a charger at our next apartment.
  - greglindahl 6y ago
    Every HN thread mentioning EVs has at least one person concerned because they personally can't charge a car at home. It rarely leads to good discussion.
  - chiefalchemist 6y ago
    Everyone's wants and needs are different. Some more fringe that others. This is part of traction and growth. Eventually, you'll be in the sweet spot. p.s. Prediction: Post-pandemic, lock-down aside, look for Whole Foods to add charging stations. It's not a wait to recharge if you're being productive otherwise. Perhaps WF already does?
    - greglindahl 6y ago
      I'm guessing you don't live in urban California, where most grocery stores installed L2 chargers 5 years ago? They were intended for short-range EV charging, and most EVs aren't short range enough to find them useful. I rarely see anyone charging at the ones in Palo Alto. Some Tesla Superchargers are near grocery stores, that's a pretty nice combination. I do have one friend who hasn't bothered to install a home charger because she can use the supercharger next to her favorite grocery store.

chiefalchemist 6y ago

Time is the solution. Gas stations weren't everwhere overnight. To this day they require a tanker fuel truck to deliver more inventory. On the other hand, the network for electricity is already in place. Distribution and refilling are "automated." EV needs a bit more time. The stars are there. They will alight soon enough.

erik_seaberg 6y ago
This. I was responding to > filling network is already in place when the last mile needs a couple hundred million charging points (with grid to supply them concurrently) and so far building them out has barely started. This is the entire reason I'm still burning gasoline for a couple of years; I can't rely on finding a charger at our next apartment.
- greglindahl 6y ago
  Every HN thread mentioning EVs has at least one person concerned because they personally can't charge a car at home. It rarely leads to good discussion.
- chiefalchemist 6y ago
  Everyone's wants and needs are different. Some more fringe that others. This is part of traction and growth. Eventually, you'll be in the sweet spot. p.s. Prediction: Post-pandemic, lock-down aside, look for Whole Foods to add charging stations. It's not a wait to recharge if you're being productive otherwise. Perhaps WF already does?
  - greglindahl 6y ago
    I'm guessing you don't live in urban California, where most grocery stores installed L2 chargers 5 years ago? They were intended for short-range EV charging, and most EVs aren't short range enough to find them useful. I rarely see anyone charging at the ones in Palo Alto. Some Tesla Superchargers are near grocery stores, that's a pretty nice combination. I do have one friend who hasn't bothered to install a home charger because she can use the supercharger next to her favorite grocery store.