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> not just borrowed but entirely given by the EU (=Germany). You can't have a workable monetary union without a fiscal union. Germany wouldn't have such a big
by wz1000 6y ago
> not just borrowed but entirely given by the EU (=Germany).
You can't have a workable monetary union without a fiscal union. Germany wouldn't have such a big surplus if its exports weren't massively boosted by the southern states depressing the exchange rate of the Euro. Unions require unity, and if Germany feels like its pulling more than its own weight, it can exit. But you see exactly the opposite, Germany (at least nominally) states that its goal is to preserve the union, and this betrays the fact that the union brings massive advantages for the German economy. It is not out of a sense of benevolence and european solidarity, but of pure self-interest.
Well, if Germany and the North want the union to survive, they will have to treat it like a real partnership and respect and recognize the contribution of their other partners.
The current "solution" of bailing out Italy and Spain with even more debt on the condition of further future austerity will only lead to further instability, unemployment, discontent and financial ruin when the debts come due.
It is not a question of "solidarity" with the South. It is a question of whether the North recognizes the contribution of its partners to the union, and whether they can act in mutual self-interest to save it.
- s9w 6y agoUnified debt was explicitly forbidden in the EU contracts. It was one, of not the major selling point for the euro.
- wz1000 6y agoIf that does not change, the Eurozone is a doomed project. In a monetary union, the regions running a surplus enjoy a massive boost due the exchange rates being depressed by the regions running a deficit, while the industries of the deficit regions struggle to catch up, hampered by the lack of natural corrective forces of a floating exchange rate. If a monetary union has to work, the deficit regions have to be fiscally supported by the surpluses generated elsewhere, or they just spiral further and further into debt, unemployment and industrial collapse.
- pinkfoot 6y agoHow is the value of the Euro depressed? It was launched at 1:1 parity with the dollar. $1 now buys you a mere €0.92
- wz1000 6y agoThat is not how this works. The value of the Euro is depressed compared to what it would be if the deficit running regions were not part of the common currency.
- pinkfoot 6y agoOk, but surely thats true with the dollar too? Some states depress the value the dollar would have if only NY and California were in the Union?
- wz1000 6y agoYes, it is true, but the difference is that the US is also a fiscal union, which is not the case with the EU, making it fundamentally unworkable in its current state. https://blogs.imf.org/2018/02/21/the-euro-area-needs-a-fiscal-union/ https://blogs.imf.org/2018/02/21/the-euro-area-needs-a-fisca...
- wz1000 6y agohttps://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/fileadmin/files/BSt/Presse/imported/downloads/xcms_bst_dms_37730_37731_2.pdf https://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/fileadmin/files/BSt/Pres...