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South Korea has far superior legal framework for pandemic compared to most western countries. As soon as there is a sign of a beginning pandemic, the medical pr

South Korea has far superior legal framework for pandemic compared to most western countries. As soon as there is a sign of a beginning pandemic, the medical professionals automatically get a massive increase in power and can start enacting lots of policies regardless of what politician think. They where probably better prepared as well. Preparedness varies a lot. In the Nordic region where I am from the Finns have done better than the rest of us because they are a prepper nation. They constantly prepare for the worst. Finland has enormous bunkers under their cities that can hold the whole population with air filters, water, food stock piles etc. Finland has massive stock piles of medical equipment, even stockpiles of raw materials for making ammunition medication etc. In many ways I think it has paid for them to not be NATO members. They know they are alone and have to take care of themselves just like in the winter war against the Soviet Union. In Norway I think we place too much faith in NATO. If it was up to me I would get the hell out and focus on self reliance instead.

pnw_hazor 7y ago
Finland has worries about Russia. South Korea has worries about North Korea. And, Taiwan worries about China. Interesting that three of the best prepared countries have valid real world concerns about their adjacent neighbors. While some nations surrounded by oceans and/or friendly countries are taking a beating.
wolfhumble 7y ago
> In the Nordic region where I am from the Finns have done better than the rest of us because they are a prepper nation. They constantly prepare for the worst. I am sure the Finns have done a fine job, but I don't think one can say that "the Finns have done better than the rest of us because they are a prepper nation" without studying this in detail. Being prepared is important, but just one part of the equation. Travelling is also another important part (I am sure there are many others as well). Looking at passenger statistics, the Finnish population seems to be traveling less by air than most Nordic countries as well. I have not extracted domestic flights and if flights are done by the citizens of the country where the airports are located, so these numbers are ballpark figures, but I guess they can give some insight (although domestic flights might cause more rapid spread of virus as well). Numbers from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_the_Nordic_countries#2019_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i... Looking at the five biggest Airports in each country in: Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Iceland, I get the following passenger numbers for each country per year: Iceland: 21,7 flights per person, per year. Norway: 8,5 flights per person, per year. Denmark: 6,2 flights per person, per year. Finland: 4,4 flights per person, per year. Sweden: 4,4 flights per person, per year. The passenger numbers correlates relatively well with detected cases when the pandemi hit the Nordic Countries (chose March 4th, arbitrarily); Sweden and Denmark changes place: ==== Iceland – March 4, 1]: Coronavirus cases detected: 26 cases Population-size adjusted, up to the size of Sweden (biggest country): 730 cases ==== Norway – March 4, 2]: Coronavirus cases detected: 59 cases Population-size adjusted: 109 ==== Sweden – March 4, 3]: Coronavirus cases detected: 52 cases (Not Population-size adjusted) ==== Denmark – March 4, 4]: Coronavirus cases detected: 14 cases Population-size adjusted: 25 ==== Finland – March 4, 5]: Coronavirus cases detected: 7 cases Population-size adjusted: 13 ==== So when this awful pandemi is over, I think it is important to study all aspects of what happened in each country before one draws firm conclusions. And LEARN from the good stuff, and do more of that! :-) Sources: 1] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/ 2] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/ 3] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ 4] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/ 5] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/finland/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/finland/

pnw_hazor 7y ago

Finland has worries about Russia. South Korea has worries about North Korea. And, Taiwan worries about China. Interesting that three of the best prepared countries have valid real world concerns about their adjacent neighbors. While some nations surrounded by oceans and/or friendly countries are taking a beating.

wolfhumble 7y ago

> In the Nordic region where I am from the Finns have done better than the rest of us because they are a prepper nation. They constantly prepare for the worst. I am sure the Finns have done a fine job, but I don't think one can say that "the Finns have done better than the rest of us because they are a prepper nation" without studying this in detail. Being prepared is important, but just one part of the equation. Travelling is also another important part (I am sure there are many others as well). Looking at passenger statistics, the Finnish population seems to be traveling less by air than most Nordic countries as well. I have not extracted domestic flights and if flights are done by the citizens of the country where the airports are located, so these numbers are ballpark figures, but I guess they can give some insight (although domestic flights might cause more rapid spread of virus as well). Numbers from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_the_Nordic_countries#2019_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i... Looking at the five biggest Airports in each country in: Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Iceland, I get the following passenger numbers for each country per year: Iceland: 21,7 flights per person, per year. Norway: 8,5 flights per person, per year. Denmark: 6,2 flights per person, per year. Finland: 4,4 flights per person, per year. Sweden: 4,4 flights per person, per year. The passenger numbers correlates relatively well with detected cases when the pandemi hit the Nordic Countries (chose March 4th, arbitrarily); Sweden and Denmark changes place: ==== Iceland – March 4, 1]: Coronavirus cases detected: 26 cases Population-size adjusted, up to the size of Sweden (biggest country): 730 cases ==== Norway – March 4, 2]: Coronavirus cases detected: 59 cases Population-size adjusted: 109 ==== Sweden – March 4, 3]: Coronavirus cases detected: 52 cases (Not Population-size adjusted) ==== Denmark – March 4, 4]: Coronavirus cases detected: 14 cases Population-size adjusted: 25 ==== Finland – March 4, 5]: Coronavirus cases detected: 7 cases Population-size adjusted: 13 ==== So when this awful pandemi is over, I think it is important to study all aspects of what happened in each country before one draws firm conclusions. And LEARN from the good stuff, and do more of that! :-) Sources: 1] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/ 2] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/ 3] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ 4] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/ 5] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/finland/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/finland/