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The only country that is counting deads at people's homes and care facilities is Sweden and they have significantly higher fatality numbers than anyone else. T

The only country that is counting deads at people's homes and care facilities is Sweden and they have significantly higher fatality numbers than anyone else. They also just started looking at increase in general deaths to see if any are related to corona. I think there will be a jump in the numbers soon. (Since this will probably come up: Despite popular belief, Sweden _is_ under partial lockdown)

hleszek 7y ago
Hmm no, Sweden is not the only country that is counting dead at care facilities. See Belgium which is on top of the chart presented by Trump: https://translate.google.be/translate?hl=fr&tab=wT&authuser=0&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesoir.be%2F295443%2Farticle%2F2020-04-19%2Flequipe-de-trump-montre-la-belgique-comme-le-pays-comptant-le-plus-de-morts-par https://translate.google.be/translate?hl=fr&tab=wT&authuser=...
allannienhuis 7y ago
We're counting covid deaths in care facilities (old-folks homes) in Canada. We're finding it (tragically) one of the largest categories. But I'm sure you'll find it true in any country that those deaths are under reported to some extent due to some lack of testing before the first clinical diagnosis of covid in a facility earlier on in the pandemic. Tracking this stuff is really messy, when testing just isn't available universally, and current tests are only a point-in-time confirmation. We won't have much more accurate statistics until there's a test that can tell if you were infected at some point (forget the name for that type of test).
- goalieca 7y ago
  > We're finding it (tragically) one of the largest categories Our prime minister said it accounted for over half of the deaths.
Yetanfou 7y ago
> Despite popular belief, Sweden _is_ under partial lockdown Sweden has implemented voluntary restrictions on social contacts as well as a partly enforced limit on social gatherings. Some gatherings of more than 50 people are left alone by the police, e.g. recent demonstrations by illegal immigrants in Gothenburg were and are allowed to continue [1]. [1] https://www.expressen.se/gt/demonstration-pagar-utanfor-migrationsverket/ https://www.expressen.se/gt/demonstration-pagar-utanfor-migr...
- Yetanfou 7y ago
  https://www.facebook.com/polisen.sodermalm/posts/3330242350322549 https://www.facebook.com/polisen.sodermalm/posts/33302423503... Here's the Swedish police giving some insight in how locked down Sweden is, run it through a translation site or just look at the image to understand that 'lockdown' is not the right term for how things are handled here.
emmanuel_1234 7y ago
They are counted in France, albeit not on a daily basis, which explains the irregular bump on data such as https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/ The official government stats publishes both numbers (death at hospital / death in care facilities).

hleszek 7y ago

Hmm no, Sweden is not the only country that is counting dead at care facilities. See Belgium which is on top of the chart presented by Trump: https://translate.google.be/translate?hl=fr&tab=wT&authuser=0&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesoir.be%2F295443%2Farticle%2F2020-04-19%2Flequipe-de-trump-montre-la-belgique-comme-le-pays-comptant-le-plus-de-morts-par https://translate.google.be/translate?hl=fr&tab=wT&authuser=...

allannienhuis 7y ago

We're counting covid deaths in care facilities (old-folks homes) in Canada. We're finding it (tragically) one of the largest categories. But I'm sure you'll find it true in any country that those deaths are under reported to some extent due to some lack of testing before the first clinical diagnosis of covid in a facility earlier on in the pandemic. Tracking this stuff is really messy, when testing just isn't available universally, and current tests are only a point-in-time confirmation. We won't have much more accurate statistics until there's a test that can tell if you were infected at some point (forget the name for that type of test).

goalieca 7y ago
> We're finding it (tragically) one of the largest categories Our prime minister said it accounted for over half of the deaths.

Yetanfou 7y ago

> Despite popular belief, Sweden _is_ under partial lockdown Sweden has implemented voluntary restrictions on social contacts as well as a partly enforced limit on social gatherings. Some gatherings of more than 50 people are left alone by the police, e.g. recent demonstrations by illegal immigrants in Gothenburg were and are allowed to continue [1]. [1] https://www.expressen.se/gt/demonstration-pagar-utanfor-migrationsverket/ https://www.expressen.se/gt/demonstration-pagar-utanfor-migr...

Yetanfou 7y ago
https://www.facebook.com/polisen.sodermalm/posts/3330242350322549 https://www.facebook.com/polisen.sodermalm/posts/33302423503... Here's the Swedish police giving some insight in how locked down Sweden is, run it through a translation site or just look at the image to understand that 'lockdown' is not the right term for how things are handled here.

emmanuel_1234 7y ago

They are counted in France, albeit not on a daily basis, which explains the irregular bump on data such as https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/ The official government stats publishes both numbers (death at hospital / death in care facilities).