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Sure, first immigrant communities are always different. Depending on their context of emigration (from where, how did they emigrate) and also the surrounding so
by _glass 6y ago
Sure, first immigrant communities are always different. Depending on their context of emigration (from where, how did they emigrate) and also the surrounding society. It can be a part of their cultural identity to do as one thinks a Turk would do. Nevertheless that is exactly a part where I would think that a simplification to compare with a global rational cultural dimension is impossible. Marriage is in Turkey much more important, but most Turks would not counter you with Islam, but with a rational discourse, e.g. a woman can get pregnant, she has to secure her hypothetical children. If she gets pregnant, the family would look like they couldn't take care, and so on. It is another story if this is really something that the family should decide. On the other hand if you would visit Turkey, which is heavily urbanized, and especially Istanbul, which is like 20% of Turkey, you would see that a lot of things are not allowed, but done. Because, well, it is not that much not allowed. I would not take those numbers for granted, but it is a funny indicator in the Durex report, where Turkey has a mean number of sexual partners of 5.3 and France just 3.8 [1]. I would also be very careful when to blame Islamists. Turkey is not a religious country. There are a lot of countries who want to construct here a clash of cultures. And apostasy is not something that gets you killed.
[1] http://www.durexnetwork.org/SiteCollectionDocuments/The%20Face%20of%20Global%20Sex%202010.pdf http://www.durexnetwork.org/SiteCollectionDocuments/The%20Fa...
- yesenadam 6y agoThanks. But you didn't say anything to persuade me that > As a specialist for Turkey I would say that it is much more secular-rationalist than Germany. And reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Turkey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Turkey doesn't at all give the impression that > Turkey is not a religious country. Neither does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Turkey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Turkey which says "there are several formal and informal mechanisms in place that make it hard for citizens not to be Muslim. Non-Muslims, especially non-religious people, are discriminated against in a variety of ways. Article 216 of the penal code outlaws insulting religious belief, a de facto blasphemy law obstructing citizens from expressing irreligious views, or views critical of religions."