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I for one, am enjoying working from home, so far. I wake up without an alarm clock. I do t have to wear what amounts to a uniform, I don't have to spend 2 - 3

I for one, am enjoying working from home, so far. I wake up without an alarm clock. I do t have to wear what amounts to a uniform, I don't have to spend 2 - 3 hours commuting. I can get my work done. I one of the few who default meeting to video on. If nothing else I'm enjoying demonstrating I can be an effective worker at home. On the other hand, I'm putting on weight. I'm not listening to as many podcasts. I'm sitting on my arse for very long periods.

bamboozled 6y ago
_I for one, am enjoying working from home, so far. I wake up without an alarm clock._ This changes overtime IMO. I've worked from home for years now, initially it's a blessing, in-time it can be a curse. If you WFH and want to be productive you _must_ learn to plan your day and that usually involved some type of discipline.
- spery 6y ago
  Waking up without an alarm clock doesn't imply lack of discipline. Unless I'm going out or going to bed very late I usually don't need an alarm. I'd just wake up at the same time every day.
  - ghaff 6y ago
    Ditto. I don’t normally use an alarm unless I have an earlyish meeting or appointment. I wake up within a certain window naturally and that’s fine.
- pritovido 6y ago
  I also do not use an alarm clock for waking up. My body is my alarm clock because of routine and discipline. If I need more sleep, I let my body sleeping more. Most of the time I don't need it. In fact I use an alarm clock for working in chunks of 50 minutes, resting 10 minutes. Over time I have a very good idea how the timer is doing without looking at it. > I've worked from home for years now, initially it's a blessing, in-time it can be a curse. I had the opposite experience. For me working from home was a curse initially. Over time I have made that a blessing learning lots of different techniques and cultivating them.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > you _must_ learn to plan your day and that usually involved some type of discipline They didn’t say they slept in or woke up at varying times - you’ve imagined that - they said they woke up without an alarm clock. That could be at 5am sharp every day for all you know!
- vicheiJ2 6y ago
  I don't use an alarm clock either, and initially indeed had the problem of irregular schedule. Then I discovered one thing : it's not about when you wake up, it's about when you go to sleep. If I force myself to go to sleep at midnight, I'm up at eight, no matter what (well, except in sleep disrupting circumstances, like drinking alcohol, no matter how few - I don't do that in the middle of the week anymore). I think the need for alarm clock is actually a symptom that we live in a culture of sleep deprivation.
  - icebraining 6y ago
    I'm the same, yet one has to be careful about extrapolating from personal experience. Lots of people here recommend exercising before work, yet for me it leaves me tired and in a bad mood, and kills my productivity. I know people who have quite irregular "natural" sleeping periods, and furthermore when they sleep 10-12hrs, they feel ill the whole day. They use the alarm clock to ensure a more regular period, and feel better for it.
    - vicheiJ2 6y ago
      Yes, you're right : my "culture of sleep deprivation" comment, even if it would happen to be true, is based on no significant evidence, sorry about that.
- watwut 6y ago
  Where is the need for more planning coming from? The amount of planning in my day did not changed at all. But as I am working from home, I am getting more sleep too. I am too waking up without alarm. I dont travel to/from work anymore and therefore it is enough to wake up a bit later. I am also more ok going to sleep sooner, because there is more time for own activities not then it used to be.
  - TeMPOraL 6y ago
    > Where is the need for more planning coming from? The amount of planning in my day did not changed at all. There are no hard boundaries preventing your routine from changing into less-focused one over time. E.g. you may get away with a Netflix break in the middle of your work day now, because nobody is looking at what you're doing. And maybe you're susceptible to TV shows, and you'll soon find yourself watching TV shows when you should be working, and then trying to catch up with the work in the evenings or just having your conscience cause you distress. That's one example, maybe you're immune to that, but there could easily be others. Also on my end, I'm stuck at home with my wife and 11 m.o. kid and, while my wife and I have an agreement that between ~10:00 and 18:00 I am in my office working, it's really hard to resist the urge to help with the kid (especially when she starts crying). It's taking an emotional toll on me. It wasn't that big of a problem before the pandemic, even though I've been WFH for the last ~3 years, because my wife would take the kid for a walk, or arrange playdates with her friend (who's also a mother of similarly-aged child and lives in the apartment building next to ours).
    - icebraining 6y ago
      You're the second person who says they can't take walks, and I'm quite surprised. Here walks are definitively allowed, as long as it's near the house and people keep their distance, and yet our infections curve has already peaked.
      - TeMPOraL 6y ago
        Even though I live in a small town, my particular area isn't exactly suited for taking a small child for a walk unless you can reach the park ~4 minutes out from my place. Parks, however, are closed (because people regularly congregated in them and violated social distancing), and hefty fines are applied if you're seen in one. This limitation is scheduled to be lifted tomorrow, so we'll start taking our daughter out again. So while technically, you can take a short walk (AFAIR 250 meters from home) and can take your pets and kids out for a walk, whether you actually can do it often depends on the specifics of your particular neighborhood.
- saurik 6y ago
  I have never had a schedule or a plan for my day and in fact bristle at those concepts as scary and painful sounding--I don't even have a fixed sleeping schedule!--and yet I seem productive enough working at home (and like, I have always worked from home; my father also worked from home: my entire world has always worked from home).
Al-Khwarizmi 6y ago
I have always enjoyed (and been very productive) working from home... until now. With a child in the house to care for (schools and childcare closed), it just doesn't work. And the emotional consequences of not being able to go for a walk don't help either, at least in my case. I hope this crisis makes more companies support work from home under normal (non-lockdown) circumstances, but most workers and employers that are trying it now for the first time are going to get a very negatively biased sample of how it works.
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pritovido 6y ago
My advice is for you doing exercise first thing in the morning as a routine. It will give you energy(unlock your lymphatic system, improving your circulation, clean your waste) , activate your brain and body(generate activation hormones and oxytocins). I recommend using the TV so you don't have to think(plan) what you do, just do it. You can do yoga, you can do zumba, you can do samba or dancing, you can do strength, martial arts, bike, table tennis. Right now everything is downloadable in torrents, and you can test any good program about any discipline before you decide you want to buy it(once you know you will use it). I suggest you try for 30 days something different each day and you will find what you like to do and what not. Once you know what you like, it is a good idea to buy the program so you make a(small) financial commitment that will help you to get used to the routine each day. Once the routine is set in place, the difficult part will be not following it.
- bloodorange 6y ago
  There's also a "seven minute workout" programme for those who want to have a low commitment start.
Buttons840 6y ago
> I don't have to spend 2 - 3 hours commuting. Let's all be sure to remember this is equivalent to saying: "I don't have to spend 10% of my life commuting."

bamboozled 6y ago

_I for one, am enjoying working from home, so far. I wake up without an alarm clock._ This changes overtime IMO. I've worked from home for years now, initially it's a blessing, in-time it can be a curse. If you WFH and want to be productive you _must_ learn to plan your day and that usually involved some type of discipline.

spery 6y ago
Waking up without an alarm clock doesn't imply lack of discipline. Unless I'm going out or going to bed very late I usually don't need an alarm. I'd just wake up at the same time every day.
- ghaff 6y ago
  Ditto. I don’t normally use an alarm unless I have an earlyish meeting or appointment. I wake up within a certain window naturally and that’s fine.
pritovido 6y ago
I also do not use an alarm clock for waking up. My body is my alarm clock because of routine and discipline. If I need more sleep, I let my body sleeping more. Most of the time I don't need it. In fact I use an alarm clock for working in chunks of 50 minutes, resting 10 minutes. Over time I have a very good idea how the timer is doing without looking at it. > I've worked from home for years now, initially it's a blessing, in-time it can be a curse. I had the opposite experience. For me working from home was a curse initially. Over time I have made that a blessing learning lots of different techniques and cultivating them.
chrisseaton 6y ago
> you _must_ learn to plan your day and that usually involved some type of discipline They didn’t say they slept in or woke up at varying times - you’ve imagined that - they said they woke up without an alarm clock. That could be at 5am sharp every day for all you know!
vicheiJ2 6y ago
I don't use an alarm clock either, and initially indeed had the problem of irregular schedule. Then I discovered one thing : it's not about when you wake up, it's about when you go to sleep. If I force myself to go to sleep at midnight, I'm up at eight, no matter what (well, except in sleep disrupting circumstances, like drinking alcohol, no matter how few - I don't do that in the middle of the week anymore). I think the need for alarm clock is actually a symptom that we live in a culture of sleep deprivation.
- icebraining 6y ago
  I'm the same, yet one has to be careful about extrapolating from personal experience. Lots of people here recommend exercising before work, yet for me it leaves me tired and in a bad mood, and kills my productivity. I know people who have quite irregular "natural" sleeping periods, and furthermore when they sleep 10-12hrs, they feel ill the whole day. They use the alarm clock to ensure a more regular period, and feel better for it.
  - vicheiJ2 6y ago
    Yes, you're right : my "culture of sleep deprivation" comment, even if it would happen to be true, is based on no significant evidence, sorry about that.
watwut 6y ago
Where is the need for more planning coming from? The amount of planning in my day did not changed at all. But as I am working from home, I am getting more sleep too. I am too waking up without alarm. I dont travel to/from work anymore and therefore it is enough to wake up a bit later. I am also more ok going to sleep sooner, because there is more time for own activities not then it used to be.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  > Where is the need for more planning coming from? The amount of planning in my day did not changed at all. There are no hard boundaries preventing your routine from changing into less-focused one over time. E.g. you may get away with a Netflix break in the middle of your work day now, because nobody is looking at what you're doing. And maybe you're susceptible to TV shows, and you'll soon find yourself watching TV shows when you should be working, and then trying to catch up with the work in the evenings or just having your conscience cause you distress. That's one example, maybe you're immune to that, but there could easily be others. Also on my end, I'm stuck at home with my wife and 11 m.o. kid and, while my wife and I have an agreement that between ~10:00 and 18:00 I am in my office working, it's really hard to resist the urge to help with the kid (especially when she starts crying). It's taking an emotional toll on me. It wasn't that big of a problem before the pandemic, even though I've been WFH for the last ~3 years, because my wife would take the kid for a walk, or arrange playdates with her friend (who's also a mother of similarly-aged child and lives in the apartment building next to ours).
  - icebraining 6y ago
    You're the second person who says they can't take walks, and I'm quite surprised. Here walks are definitively allowed, as long as it's near the house and people keep their distance, and yet our infections curve has already peaked.
    - TeMPOraL 6y ago
      Even though I live in a small town, my particular area isn't exactly suited for taking a small child for a walk unless you can reach the park ~4 minutes out from my place. Parks, however, are closed (because people regularly congregated in them and violated social distancing), and hefty fines are applied if you're seen in one. This limitation is scheduled to be lifted tomorrow, so we'll start taking our daughter out again. So while technically, you can take a short walk (AFAIR 250 meters from home) and can take your pets and kids out for a walk, whether you actually can do it often depends on the specifics of your particular neighborhood.
saurik 6y ago
I have never had a schedule or a plan for my day and in fact bristle at those concepts as scary and painful sounding--I don't even have a fixed sleeping schedule!--and yet I seem productive enough working at home (and like, I have always worked from home; my father also worked from home: my entire world has always worked from home).

Al-Khwarizmi 6y ago

I have always enjoyed (and been very productive) working from home... until now. With a child in the house to care for (schools and childcare closed), it just doesn't work. And the emotional consequences of not being able to go for a walk don't help either, at least in my case. I hope this crisis makes more companies support work from home under normal (non-lockdown) circumstances, but most workers and employers that are trying it now for the first time are going to get a very negatively biased sample of how it works.

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pritovido 6y ago

My advice is for you doing exercise first thing in the morning as a routine. It will give you energy(unlock your lymphatic system, improving your circulation, clean your waste) , activate your brain and body(generate activation hormones and oxytocins). I recommend using the TV so you don't have to think(plan) what you do, just do it. You can do yoga, you can do zumba, you can do samba or dancing, you can do strength, martial arts, bike, table tennis. Right now everything is downloadable in torrents, and you can test any good program about any discipline before you decide you want to buy it(once you know you will use it). I suggest you try for 30 days something different each day and you will find what you like to do and what not. Once you know what you like, it is a good idea to buy the program so you make a(small) financial commitment that will help you to get used to the routine each day. Once the routine is set in place, the difficult part will be not following it.

bloodorange 6y ago
There's also a "seven minute workout" programme for those who want to have a low commitment start.

Buttons840 6y ago

> I don't have to spend 2 - 3 hours commuting. Let's all be sure to remember this is equivalent to saying: "I don't have to spend 10% of my life commuting."