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Interesting read. The Walther PP series was a good future focused “fashionista” choice for Bond in film. But I do think for the Bond character from the book,

Interesting read. The Walther PP series was a good future focused “fashionista” choice for Bond in film. But I do think for the Bond character from the book, as well as the reality of the 50’s-60’s period, a small revolver would haves suited for both close range discrete carry self-defence, as well as offensive assassination. From a more gritty/realistic viewpoint, targeted killings in a number of places around the world in the period often relied on revolvers due to their simplicity and reliability. Ammunition failure was more common then, revolvers allowed the user the ability to sequence thru a stoppage/misfire. Close combat stoppage drills then for semi-automatic pistols were not nearly as refined as today.

dingaling 6y ago
> The Walther PP series was a good future focused “fashionista” choice for Bond in film. Interesting opinion given that the PP dates from 1929! And of course the simplified PPK was a favourite of the Gestapo.
- mellavora 6y ago
  Yes, the PP series were police guns, and the Gestapo were police. It was also one of the first double-action semi-automatic pistol, making it popular with police forces the world over in the years after WWII, including (at least according to one source) the CIA MAJ BOOTHROYD Walther PPK. 7.65mm with a delivery like a brick through a plate-glass window. Takes a Brausch silencer, with little reduction in muzzle velocity. The American CIA swear by them.
pps43 6y ago
Revolvers may look simple, but they have lots of small internal parts. More than a typical semi-auto. And they are not reliable in practice. Especially considering that most semi-auto malfunctions can be cleared in a second with tap-rack, but revolver malfunction tend to lock it up for good.
- Merad 6y ago
  > And they are not reliable in practice. I'm curious what you mean by this. I agree that when a revolver experiences a mechanical malfunction it's usually serious and the gun is probably done until a gunsmith takes it apart. But that type of malfunction is extremely rare.
  - pps43 6y ago
    Not rare. I shoot USPSA and Steel Challenge and have seen all kinds of revolver malfunctions in matches. Cylinder binding because bullets walked out under recoil, broken firing pin, cylinder falling out on the ground, timing issues (chamber not aligned with bore axis), broken springs, etc. Most are catastrophic, meaning that competitors cannot fix them on the clock, and if they don't have a spare gun they cannot finish the match either.
    - zepto 6y ago
      People rarely use stock, unmodified revolvers for steel challenge or USPSA, and they rarely shoot factory ammunition. Almost all of the modifications are about intentionally trading reliability for speed. I don’t dispute what you’ve seen but I don’t think it’s representative of what would be used for self defense or combat.
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ztjio 6y ago
In Doctor No (the novel,) Bond does end up with a revolver, albeit not meant to be his small gun. “There’s only one gun for that, sir,’ said Major Boothroyd stolidly. ‘Smith & Wesson Centennial Airweight. Revolver. .38 calibre. Hammerless, so it won’t catch in clothing. Overall length of six and a half inches and it only weighs thirteen ounces. To keep down the weight, the cylinder holds only five cartridges. But by the time they’re gone,’ Major Boothroyd allowed himself a wintry smile, ‘somebody’s been killed. Fires the .38 S & W Special. Very accurate cartridge indeed. With standard loading it has a muzzle velocity of eight hundred and sixty feet per second and muzzle energy of two hundred and sixty foot-pounds. There are various barrel lengths, three and a half inch, five inch…” Excerpt From: Fleming, Ian. “Doctor No.” Penguin Books Ltd (UK), 2009-07-19T11:22:25.

dingaling 6y ago

> The Walther PP series was a good future focused “fashionista” choice for Bond in film. Interesting opinion given that the PP dates from 1929! And of course the simplified PPK was a favourite of the Gestapo.

mellavora 6y ago
Yes, the PP series were police guns, and the Gestapo were police. It was also one of the first double-action semi-automatic pistol, making it popular with police forces the world over in the years after WWII, including (at least according to one source) the CIA MAJ BOOTHROYD Walther PPK. 7.65mm with a delivery like a brick through a plate-glass window. Takes a Brausch silencer, with little reduction in muzzle velocity. The American CIA swear by them.

pps43 6y ago

Revolvers may look simple, but they have lots of small internal parts. More than a typical semi-auto. And they are not reliable in practice. Especially considering that most semi-auto malfunctions can be cleared in a second with tap-rack, but revolver malfunction tend to lock it up for good.

Merad 6y ago
> And they are not reliable in practice. I'm curious what you mean by this. I agree that when a revolver experiences a mechanical malfunction it's usually serious and the gun is probably done until a gunsmith takes it apart. But that type of malfunction is extremely rare.
- pps43 6y ago
  Not rare. I shoot USPSA and Steel Challenge and have seen all kinds of revolver malfunctions in matches. Cylinder binding because bullets walked out under recoil, broken firing pin, cylinder falling out on the ground, timing issues (chamber not aligned with bore axis), broken springs, etc. Most are catastrophic, meaning that competitors cannot fix them on the clock, and if they don't have a spare gun they cannot finish the match either.
  - zepto 6y ago
    People rarely use stock, unmodified revolvers for steel challenge or USPSA, and they rarely shoot factory ammunition. Almost all of the modifications are about intentionally trading reliability for speed. I don’t dispute what you’ve seen but I don’t think it’s representative of what would be used for self defense or combat.
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ztjio 6y ago

In Doctor No (the novel,) Bond does end up with a revolver, albeit not meant to be his small gun. “There’s only one gun for that, sir,’ said Major Boothroyd stolidly. ‘Smith & Wesson Centennial Airweight. Revolver. .38 calibre. Hammerless, so it won’t catch in clothing. Overall length of six and a half inches and it only weighs thirteen ounces. To keep down the weight, the cylinder holds only five cartridges. But by the time they’re gone,’ Major Boothroyd allowed himself a wintry smile, ‘somebody’s been killed. Fires the .38 S & W Special. Very accurate cartridge indeed. With standard loading it has a muzzle velocity of eight hundred and sixty feet per second and muzzle energy of two hundred and sixty foot-pounds. There are various barrel lengths, three and a half inch, five inch…” Excerpt From: Fleming, Ian. “Doctor No.” Penguin Books Ltd (UK), 2009-07-19T11:22:25.