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> more people are immune due to prior infection This is not a given. Other coronaviruses tend to confer only temporary immunity, and this one might be similar.

> more people are immune due to prior infection This is not a given. Other coronaviruses tend to confer only temporary immunity, and this one might be similar. This thing could become seasonal unless/until we make a very effective vaccine against it. <shudder/>

mirimir 7y ago
Also, those Chinese bats and bat eaters are still there, so this won't be the last coronavirus to make the jump successfully. Edit: That's not a joke: Cheng et al. (2007) Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus as an Agent of Emerging and Reemerging Infection [0] > Coronaviruses are well known to undergo genetic recombination, which may lead to new genotypes and outbreaks. The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored. 0) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2176051/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2176051/
- ImprovedSilence 7y ago
  I'm gonna be too lazy to dig up sources for what I'm about to say. But I've read some speculation that the current coronavirus came from a bat that's part of the same region/bat cluster/cave that SARS did. But this was part of a much larger speculation that the current outbreak came out of the wuhan lab, when a researcher came into contact with bat urine/blood, died, and passed the infection onto an undertaker. there's a whole level of speculation there, and several people involved seem to have been disappeared. Old interns are nowhere to be found, there were job postings in oct/nov timeframe in the lab relevant to coronaviruses in bats, etc etc. /tinfoil_hat
  - mirimir 7y ago
    Wow. That'd be quite the fuck up. I mean, maybe they were sampling bat caves, to check for SARS-CoV-like viruses. Which would have been prudent. But then maybe they were sloppy, so many died, and it escaped the lab. If you could find sources, that'd be an amazing story!
    - Izkata 7y ago
      The part about the undertaker seems made-up, but much of the rest is documented here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU (Sources used in the video are linked at the bottom of the description)
      - mirimir 7y ago
        That is indeed quite the story. In case the YT link evaporates, I downloaded it. Also see the author's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/laowhy86 https://www.patreon.com/laowhy86

mirimir 7y ago

Also, those Chinese bats and bat eaters are still there, so this won't be the last coronavirus to make the jump successfully. Edit: That's not a joke: Cheng et al. (2007) Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus as an Agent of Emerging and Reemerging Infection [0] > Coronaviruses are well known to undergo genetic recombination, which may lead to new genotypes and outbreaks. The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored. 0) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2176051/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2176051/

ImprovedSilence 7y ago
I'm gonna be too lazy to dig up sources for what I'm about to say. But I've read some speculation that the current coronavirus came from a bat that's part of the same region/bat cluster/cave that SARS did. But this was part of a much larger speculation that the current outbreak came out of the wuhan lab, when a researcher came into contact with bat urine/blood, died, and passed the infection onto an undertaker. there's a whole level of speculation there, and several people involved seem to have been disappeared. Old interns are nowhere to be found, there were job postings in oct/nov timeframe in the lab relevant to coronaviruses in bats, etc etc. /tinfoil_hat
- mirimir 7y ago
  Wow. That'd be quite the fuck up. I mean, maybe they were sampling bat caves, to check for SARS-CoV-like viruses. Which would have been prudent. But then maybe they were sloppy, so many died, and it escaped the lab. If you could find sources, that'd be an amazing story!
  - Izkata 7y ago
    The part about the undertaker seems made-up, but much of the rest is documented here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU (Sources used in the video are linked at the bottom of the description)
    - mirimir 7y ago
      That is indeed quite the story. In case the YT link evaporates, I downloaded it. Also see the author's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/laowhy86 https://www.patreon.com/laowhy86