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Casually starting the turn and not yielding to pedestrians at 10:21. Companies actually put this kind of footage up without ever reviewing it?

chrischen 7y ago
I mean it's not 100% of the way there. Plus human drivers do that all the time and MUCH worse things. I'm talking from the point of view as a frequent Uber/Lyft passenger.
dmitriid 7y ago
Casually starting a turn and correctly identifying that the person on the right slowed down, stopped and turned to face the other crosswalk. You can see it on the top right camera.
- stefan_ 7y ago
  I take it the ped at 12:22 also "turned"?
  - dmitriid 7y ago
    This one looks like a regular situation handled like a regular driver would handle it: the person was a reasonably long distance away from the intersection and by the time the car got to the crosswalk it was probably going at a high enough speed when suddenly braking would cause problems. But yeah, it does look as something to re-analyse.
hrishid 7y ago
Are you referring to the pedestrian who's almost crossed the crosswalk on the left side of the screen? This is still a proper yield as far as I can see. The car just enters the intersection before that person has finished crossing.
- stefan_ 7y ago
  That's already the problem. Don't enter the intersection if you can not speedily finish your turn. There is also already another ped on collision course the moment they start moving forward.
  - dllu 7y ago
    While technically right, you'll never be able to get anywhere in a big city if you drive like that.
    - cmendel 7y ago
      Immaterial. I don't want self driving cars driving like Bostonians or worse, New yorkers. Self driving cars need to follow the law, drive defensively, and be conservative. If that means that they take 10 additional minutes to get to their destination so what? The alternative is that the car kills someone because of impatience, that is to say an improperly weighted time value function, which I would think no one wants.

chrischen 7y ago

I mean it's not 100% of the way there. Plus human drivers do that all the time and MUCH worse things. I'm talking from the point of view as a frequent Uber/Lyft passenger.

dmitriid 7y ago

Casually starting a turn and correctly identifying that the person on the right slowed down, stopped and turned to face the other crosswalk. You can see it on the top right camera.

stefan_ 7y ago
I take it the ped at 12:22 also "turned"?
- dmitriid 7y ago
  This one looks like a regular situation handled like a regular driver would handle it: the person was a reasonably long distance away from the intersection and by the time the car got to the crosswalk it was probably going at a high enough speed when suddenly braking would cause problems. But yeah, it does look as something to re-analyse.

hrishid 7y ago

Are you referring to the pedestrian who's almost crossed the crosswalk on the left side of the screen? This is still a proper yield as far as I can see. The car just enters the intersection before that person has finished crossing.

stefan_ 7y ago
That's already the problem. Don't enter the intersection if you can not speedily finish your turn. There is also already another ped on collision course the moment they start moving forward.
- dllu 7y ago
  While technically right, you'll never be able to get anywhere in a big city if you drive like that.
  - cmendel 7y ago
    Immaterial. I don't want self driving cars driving like Bostonians or worse, New yorkers. Self driving cars need to follow the law, drive defensively, and be conservative. If that means that they take 10 additional minutes to get to their destination so what? The alternative is that the car kills someone because of impatience, that is to say an improperly weighted time value function, which I would think no one wants.