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> Decentralized social networks have been tried before, the two most well known are Diaspora and Mastadon. With these services there [is still moderation]... Sc

> Decentralized social networks have been tried before, the two most well known are Diaspora and Mastadon. With these services there [is still moderation]... Scuttlebutt is how I believe the social web should function in the future. Even the Hackernews community which lean towards decentralization more so than the general public would still argue there is value in moderation.

TimJRobinson 7y ago
For sure, any network without any moderation is going to quickly fall into chaos. I'm working on a post on decentralized personalized moderation at the moment which should be out in the next day or two :)
- moojd 7y ago
  I think this right here is a killer app for decentralized social networks and is something I've been thinking about a lot. I'm looking forward to your post!
moojd 7y ago
It's possible (and important) that moderation can be implemented in a decentralized community. Aether[0] has a really interesting take on it where it is essentially democratic. [0] https://getaether.net/ https://getaether.net/
sneak 7y ago
Moderation feeds can be published into decentralized networks just like the content messages themselves. Then readers can choose their set of preferred moderators (author/item killfile-stream publishers) to apply clientside.
fabianhjr 7y ago
Decentralized doesn't mean unmoderated. Since it is decentralized there is no "global feed" and there is a lot of great discussion about moderation tools and processes on secure-scuttlebutt. Particularly, check the section of follow-graph: https://ssbc.github.io/scuttlebutt-protocol-guide/#follow-graph https://ssbc.github.io/scuttlebutt-protocol-guide/#follow-gr...
zozbot234 7y ago
> there is value in moderation Of course. Everything in moderation, including moderation.
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Animats 7y ago
Without an identity provider scheme that doesn't allow creating unlimited free identities, the spam, scam, and troll problem gets out of hand. China has a strong identity provider scheme. They tie everyone's phone to their government issued citizen ID.
soapdog 7y ago
I'm the author of one of the clients (https://patchfox.org https://patchfox.org). All clients support blocking people, both visibly with a public message, or privately with an encrypted message only readable by you (which causes your client to block that feed). In Patchfox, I've added other forms of moderation which boils down to self-moderation and selective listening. You can mute or blur feeds, keywords, and channels. Even though this is client-side only, it provides some tools to keep a safe space around how you interact with the larger world. It doesn't affect replication and doesn't carry on into other clients (as I'm still trying to find the best patterns and practices for this). In the end I'm seeing lots of comment here by people who probably don't actually use SSB. It is a quite fun and lovable place.

TimJRobinson 7y ago

For sure, any network without any moderation is going to quickly fall into chaos. I'm working on a post on decentralized personalized moderation at the moment which should be out in the next day or two :)

moojd 7y ago
I think this right here is a killer app for decentralized social networks and is something I've been thinking about a lot. I'm looking forward to your post!

moojd 7y ago

It's possible (and important) that moderation can be implemented in a decentralized community. Aether[0] has a really interesting take on it where it is essentially democratic. [0] https://getaether.net/ https://getaether.net/

sneak 7y ago

Moderation feeds can be published into decentralized networks just like the content messages themselves. Then readers can choose their set of preferred moderators (author/item killfile-stream publishers) to apply clientside.

fabianhjr 7y ago

Decentralized doesn't mean unmoderated. Since it is decentralized there is no "global feed" and there is a lot of great discussion about moderation tools and processes on secure-scuttlebutt. Particularly, check the section of follow-graph: https://ssbc.github.io/scuttlebutt-protocol-guide/#follow-graph https://ssbc.github.io/scuttlebutt-protocol-guide/#follow-gr...

zozbot234 7y ago

> there is value in moderation Of course. Everything in moderation, including moderation.

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Animats 7y ago

Without an identity provider scheme that doesn't allow creating unlimited free identities, the spam, scam, and troll problem gets out of hand. China has a strong identity provider scheme. They tie everyone's phone to their government issued citizen ID.

soapdog 7y ago

I'm the author of one of the clients (https://patchfox.org https://patchfox.org). All clients support blocking people, both visibly with a public message, or privately with an encrypted message only readable by you (which causes your client to block that feed). In Patchfox, I've added other forms of moderation which boils down to self-moderation and selective listening. You can mute or blur feeds, keywords, and channels. Even though this is client-side only, it provides some tools to keep a safe space around how you interact with the larger world. It doesn't affect replication and doesn't carry on into other clients (as I'm still trying to find the best patterns and practices for this). In the end I'm seeing lots of comment here by people who probably don't actually use SSB. It is a quite fun and lovable place.