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That is my point. "Perl" didn't try to change genres, something different came along and called itself "Perl 6". No disrespect to either language, but linguisti

That is my point. "Perl" didn't try to change genres, something different came along and called itself "Perl 6". No disrespect to either language, but linguistically this is has a negative impact for both Perl 5 and "Perl 6". Maintaining that certain people got "used to" the idea proves that it was never a wise move. Also, note what chromatic has to say: https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=1220578 https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=1220578 https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=11105180 https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=11105180 And so on.

lizmat 6y ago
> something different came along and called itself "Perl 6" You appear to forget that the "Perl 6" initiative originally came from the Perl 5 Porters. It did not just come along and called itself "Perl 6": the "Perl 6" name was used because originally it was intended as the successor of Perl 5. That it didn't materialize in time, that it became something much different, is something that happened later. But even with Pugs around 2005, Perl 6 was still the successor to Perl 5. Only around 2010, when the sister language concept was introduced, was Perl 6 considered to be a different language.
- lilSebastian 6y ago
  The concept of perl 6, at some stage shifted from being the next incremental release of the Perl language, sure. For around 10 or so years the Perl 6 crew knew this was going to be a different language, yet held onto the name for this period of time and even made arguments in public that Perl 6 should remain the name, given all the facts, as recently as last year. This sort of thing can cause problems in communities, and nobody on the outside of the inner clan really cares, beyond the point that all the slight of hand and infighting pushes good folk away. Bullying Isn't Effective Advocacy: https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=1221390 https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=1221390 Also, when it was known Perl 6 was going to be a different language, they were several year away from a release

lizmat 6y ago

> something different came along and called itself "Perl 6" You appear to forget that the "Perl 6" initiative originally came from the Perl 5 Porters. It did not just come along and called itself "Perl 6": the "Perl 6" name was used because originally it was intended as the successor of Perl 5. That it didn't materialize in time, that it became something much different, is something that happened later. But even with Pugs around 2005, Perl 6 was still the successor to Perl 5. Only around 2010, when the sister language concept was introduced, was Perl 6 considered to be a different language.

lilSebastian 6y ago
The concept of perl 6, at some stage shifted from being the next incremental release of the Perl language, sure. For around 10 or so years the Perl 6 crew knew this was going to be a different language, yet held onto the name for this period of time and even made arguments in public that Perl 6 should remain the name, given all the facts, as recently as last year. This sort of thing can cause problems in communities, and nobody on the outside of the inner clan really cares, beyond the point that all the slight of hand and infighting pushes good folk away. Bullying Isn't Effective Advocacy: https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=1221390 https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=1221390 Also, when it was known Perl 6 was going to be a different language, they were several year away from a release