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> I thought the point of the rename was Perl 5 can now release Perl 6 I think that would only add to the confusion, since Perl 6 was already a thing, albeit to

> I thought the point of the rename was Perl 5 can now release Perl 6 I think that would only add to the confusion, since Perl 6 was already a thing, albeit totally different from Perl 5

gus_massa 6y ago
They should skip "Perl 6" and go directly to "Perl 7", like Windows that skip "Windows 9" to avoid confussion.
- lizmat 6y ago
  Unfortunately, "Perl 7" was a "thing" in the discussions before the name change. IMO, going to "Perl 32" makes more sense, as it actually reflects the current version numbering scheme. Or refer to the year: Perl 2020.
  - petre 6y ago
    If Oracle had "bought" Perl they'd probably renamed it to Perl 32 by now and sued everyone else for using sygils. The current numbering scheme uses odd minor version numbers for development versions and even for stable, just like Linux used to, until Linus got fed up with 2.6 after 8 years. Now it gets a bump whenever the minor version sticks too much. https://askubuntu.com/a/843247 https://askubuntu.com/a/843247
  - zimpenfish 6y ago
    "Perl 32? But I have a 64 bit processor!"
- capableweb 6y ago
  I remember the "skipping version 9" in windows was due to many developers using "startsWith(os.version(), "9")" (pseudocode obviously) to detect windows 95/99 and therefore they avoid using version 9 in order to remain compatible, but I might remember wrong.
  - gus_massa 6y ago
    Yes, it is a totaly different type of confussion. More cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning
- smacktoward 6y ago
  PHP did the same thing, skipping from 5 directly to 7 because PHP 6 ended up being a dead-end. It was pretty painless (at least as far as I could see). “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” — Ralph Waldo Emerson
  - b2gills 6y ago
    That is not actually the same thing. PHP 6 was thrown away never to be seen from again, because it was seen as bad. Perl 6 was renamed because both Perl 5 and Perl 6 are significantly different active languages. If Perl went to 7 it could indicate to some that 6 was bad in the same way. That is it would trade one confusion for another. --- If Perl truly wants to go beyond 5, it should make a major step. Either by going to the subversion (32), or the year (2020).

> I thought the point of the rename was Perl 5 can now release Perl 6 I think that would only add to the confusion, since Perl 6 was already a thing, albeit totally different from Perl 5

gus_massa 6y ago

They should skip "Perl 6" and go directly to "Perl 7", like Windows that skip "Windows 9" to avoid confussion.

lizmat 6y ago
Unfortunately, "Perl 7" was a "thing" in the discussions before the name change. IMO, going to "Perl 32" makes more sense, as it actually reflects the current version numbering scheme. Or refer to the year: Perl 2020.
- petre 6y ago
  If Oracle had "bought" Perl they'd probably renamed it to Perl 32 by now and sued everyone else for using sygils. The current numbering scheme uses odd minor version numbers for development versions and even for stable, just like Linux used to, until Linus got fed up with 2.6 after 8 years. Now it gets a bump whenever the minor version sticks too much. https://askubuntu.com/a/843247 https://askubuntu.com/a/843247
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  "Perl 32? But I have a 64 bit processor!"
capableweb 6y ago
I remember the "skipping version 9" in windows was due to many developers using "startsWith(os.version(), "9")" (pseudocode obviously) to detect windows 95/99 and therefore they avoid using version 9 in order to remain compatible, but I might remember wrong.
- gus_massa 6y ago
  Yes, it is a totaly different type of confussion. More cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning
smacktoward 6y ago
PHP did the same thing, skipping from 5 directly to 7 because PHP 6 ended up being a dead-end. It was pretty painless (at least as far as I could see). “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” — Ralph Waldo Emerson
- b2gills 6y ago
  That is not actually the same thing. PHP 6 was thrown away never to be seen from again, because it was seen as bad. Perl 6 was renamed because both Perl 5 and Perl 6 are significantly different active languages. If Perl went to 7 it could indicate to some that 6 was bad in the same way. That is it would trade one confusion for another. --- If Perl truly wants to go beyond 5, it should make a major step. Either by going to the subversion (32), or the year (2020).