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Thomas, I also highly respect you. While you're not wrong in anything you write, you're doing the conversation a disservice by not reading the design notes [1].

by tasuki 7y ago

Thomas, I also highly respect you. While you're not wrong in anything you write, you're doing the conversation a disservice by not reading the design notes [1]. Perhaps if you're really short on time (aren't we all?), you might at least find it amusing that the Handshake developers took $10 million of VC money and donated it to Free and Open Source foundations [2]. That was actual cash donated, not just magical internet money. [1] https://handshake.org/files/handshake.txt https://handshake.org/files/handshake.txt [2] https://handshake.org/grant-sponsors/ https://handshake.org/grant-sponsors/

tptacek 7y ago
In exchange for that money, Handshake appears to want the Internet to donate something of great value (authority over the DNS) so Handshake can sell it back to them. It doesn't even matter what I think about this design. Speaking positively, not normatively: this is never going to happen. Everyone from billion dollar corporations to academic research labs to inexplicably influential Internet curmudgeons working out of basements will recoil from this.
- rasengan 7y ago
  That's not the case at all, but feel free to make false assumptions. That being said, given every single time you appear in a thread and have a counter opinion and downvotes ensue seconds after and then cease immediately, it's clear you know exactly what a sybil attack is - if your email address wasn't enough of a hint. Now speaking positively, not normatively, you can continue to make up stories, but the majority of the coins were already distributed to open source contributors. If you weren't included in this, I would suggest finding some great projects to contribute to instead of building up 300,000 karma on hacker news by spending all day trying to force your false narrative.
  - tptacek 7y ago
    Pro-tip: Handshake coins can be exchanged for US dollars or Bitcoin on the Namebase exchange. This is a great time to HODL and use your airdrop to bid on available Handshake domain names. As the adoption of HNS and Handshake domains increases, we are likely to see the value of both these assets increase over time. As early airdrop recipients, you are the best advocates and builders of Handshake. Yeah this seems super legit. Can I do it too? I'd like to blockchain ARP. I'll pre-distribute my ARPCoins to open source developers, so it'll be totally above board. Down with the IEEE Registration Authority! Up with the people!
    - rasengan 7y ago
      I wasn't sure where that quote came from, but Google helped out. It appears you're trying to misrepresent text from an exchange's website as somehow being representative of the Handshake community. The vast majority of the handshake community has no affiliation with Namebase, but I definitely recommend Namebase for people who are not comfortable managing their private keys. Your comment is analagous with taking a comment from the Microsoft website about GNU/Linux. On another note, Thomas, I would like to point out that you have chosen to be outspoken in the community, so I would like to strongly suggest you do so in a more constructive manner.
      - tptacek 7y ago
        I think you're being too dismissive of my plan. It's at least theoretically possible to use the Internet without the DNS. But just try using it without ARP! Nobody is reading this thread besides us at this point, so maybe should just tie it off here, or with your reply. All the best!
        rasengan 7y ago
        >I think you're being too dismissive of my plan. It's at least theoretically possible to use the Internet without the DNS. But just try using it without ARP! >Nobody is reading this thread besides us at this point, so maybe should just tie it off here, or with your reply. All the best! Haha, that's all true. Cheers! :)
- tasuki 7y ago
  Do you think the current system is just fine? If yes, what are your thoughts on the recent ICANN controversies? If not, what are the better alternatives?

by tasuki 7y ago

tptacek 7y ago

In exchange for that money, Handshake appears to want the Internet to donate something of great value (authority over the DNS) so Handshake can sell it back to them. It doesn't even matter what I think about this design. Speaking positively, not normatively: this is never going to happen. Everyone from billion dollar corporations to academic research labs to inexplicably influential Internet curmudgeons working out of basements will recoil from this.

rasengan 7y ago
That's not the case at all, but feel free to make false assumptions. That being said, given every single time you appear in a thread and have a counter opinion and downvotes ensue seconds after and then cease immediately, it's clear you know exactly what a sybil attack is - if your email address wasn't enough of a hint. Now speaking positively, not normatively, you can continue to make up stories, but the majority of the coins were already distributed to open source contributors. If you weren't included in this, I would suggest finding some great projects to contribute to instead of building up 300,000 karma on hacker news by spending all day trying to force your false narrative.
- tptacek 7y ago
  Pro-tip: Handshake coins can be exchanged for US dollars or Bitcoin on the Namebase exchange. This is a great time to HODL and use your airdrop to bid on available Handshake domain names. As the adoption of HNS and Handshake domains increases, we are likely to see the value of both these assets increase over time. As early airdrop recipients, you are the best advocates and builders of Handshake. Yeah this seems super legit. Can I do it too? I'd like to blockchain ARP. I'll pre-distribute my ARPCoins to open source developers, so it'll be totally above board. Down with the IEEE Registration Authority! Up with the people!
  - rasengan 7y ago
    I wasn't sure where that quote came from, but Google helped out. It appears you're trying to misrepresent text from an exchange's website as somehow being representative of the Handshake community. The vast majority of the handshake community has no affiliation with Namebase, but I definitely recommend Namebase for people who are not comfortable managing their private keys. Your comment is analagous with taking a comment from the Microsoft website about GNU/Linux. On another note, Thomas, I would like to point out that you have chosen to be outspoken in the community, so I would like to strongly suggest you do so in a more constructive manner.
    - tptacek 7y ago
      I think you're being too dismissive of my plan. It's at least theoretically possible to use the Internet without the DNS. But just try using it without ARP! Nobody is reading this thread besides us at this point, so maybe should just tie it off here, or with your reply. All the best!
      - rasengan 7y ago
        >I think you're being too dismissive of my plan. It's at least theoretically possible to use the Internet without the DNS. But just try using it without ARP! >Nobody is reading this thread besides us at this point, so maybe should just tie it off here, or with your reply. All the best! Haha, that's all true. Cheers! :)
tasuki 7y ago
Do you think the current system is just fine? If yes, what are your thoughts on the recent ICANN controversies? If not, what are the better alternatives?