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I dislike it too, but doesn’t Windows 10 do the same thing?

by madjam002 7y ago

gowld 7y ago
Probably, but Windows is terrible at everything UX so that doesn't mean much.
nitwit005 7y ago
Windows seems to respond to almost any input to display the password box.
jodrellblank 7y ago
Windows 10 with Windows Hello does face recognition logon without any need to swipe or press key combinations. On a touchscreen, it responds to a swipe upwards. On a machine with a keyboard it responds to apparently any mouse click or keypress. Presumably Gnome copypasted it from Windows, because otherwise where did that idea come from into multiple distinct projects simultaneously? Windows has always had ctrl+alt+del to logon, Ubuntu hasn't had a precedent of having to do something to get to the logon prompt, IIRC.
- p1necone 7y ago
  Windows hello is such a nice experience (at least just for local login), but I will never use it because I don't trust Microsoft with my data.
  - jodrellblank 6y ago
    "the info that identifies your face, iris, or fingerprint never leaves your device." - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468253/windows-10-sign-in-options-and-privacy https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468253/windows-10-...
    - coribuci 6y ago
      > "the info that identifies your face, iris, or fingerprint never leaves your device." - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468253/windows-10-.. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468253/windows-10-.... Of course not.
      - jodrellblank 6y ago
        Of course not what?
ben-schaaf 7y ago
Windows 10 is even worse. It swipes up for you when you press a key, but it won't pass that key on to the password box. So you have to press a key and then type your password. At least with gnome you can just type your password and it works as expected...
- hutattedonmyarm 7y ago
  It also requires you to wait until the animation has finished. I regularly lose the first character or two of my password, because I start typing too soon, while it’s still animating away
  - epistasis 7y ago
    iOS has been this way for a couple versions, and I can't imagine how it ever passed testing. Animations that block use input are the sort of stupidity that becomes evil in its own regard. There was even a calculator but with this. This is a massive failure at the management level; somebody actually codes these things, but that it's not caught anywhere before shipping shows that the wrong people are in charge.
    - passerby1 7y ago
      It's the sin of losing the user input. Don't make your user repeat something twice :)
  - necovek 7y ago
    I do not have this experience on the screen lock screen (on Ubuntu 18.04 at least) — just typing a password will put the full password into the box once the animation is gone. I do not log-in frequently enough to remember how it behaves on log-in (even my laptop has ~90 days of uptime). FWIW, moving away from GNOME 2.x to either Unity or GNOME 3 was a hard move to swallow, though in all honesty, Unity was better (though pretty buggy and laggy until the end)!
    - Andrew_nenakhov 7y ago

I dislike it too, but doesn’t Windows 10 do the same thing?

gowld 7y ago

Probably, but Windows is terrible at everything UX so that doesn't mean much.

nitwit005 7y ago

Windows seems to respond to almost any input to display the password box.

jodrellblank 7y ago

Windows 10 with Windows Hello does face recognition logon without any need to swipe or press key combinations. On a touchscreen, it responds to a swipe upwards. On a machine with a keyboard it responds to apparently any mouse click or keypress. Presumably Gnome copypasted it from Windows, because otherwise where did that idea come from into multiple distinct projects simultaneously? Windows has always had ctrl+alt+del to logon, Ubuntu hasn't had a precedent of having to do something to get to the logon prompt, IIRC.

p1necone 7y ago
Windows hello is such a nice experience (at least just for local login), but I will never use it because I don't trust Microsoft with my data.
- jodrellblank 6y ago
  "the info that identifies your face, iris, or fingerprint never leaves your device." - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468253/windows-10-sign-in-options-and-privacy https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468253/windows-10-...
  - coribuci 6y ago
    > "the info that identifies your face, iris, or fingerprint never leaves your device." - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468253/windows-10-.. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468253/windows-10-.... Of course not.
    - jodrellblank 6y ago
      Of course not what?

ben-schaaf 7y ago

Windows 10 is even worse. It swipes up for you when you press a key, but it won't pass that key on to the password box. So you have to press a key and then type your password. At least with gnome you can just type your password and it works as expected...

hutattedonmyarm 7y ago
It also requires you to wait until the animation has finished. I regularly lose the first character or two of my password, because I start typing too soon, while it’s still animating away
- epistasis 7y ago
  iOS has been this way for a couple versions, and I can't imagine how it ever passed testing. Animations that block use input are the sort of stupidity that becomes evil in its own regard. There was even a calculator but with this. This is a massive failure at the management level; somebody actually codes these things, but that it's not caught anywhere before shipping shows that the wrong people are in charge.
  - passerby1 7y ago
    It's the sin of losing the user input. Don't make your user repeat something twice :)
- necovek 7y ago
  I do not have this experience on the screen lock screen (on Ubuntu 18.04 at least) — just typing a password will put the full password into the box once the animation is gone. I do not log-in frequently enough to remember how it behaves on log-in (even my laptop has ~90 days of uptime). FWIW, moving away from GNOME 2.x to either Unity or GNOME 3 was a hard move to swallow, though in all honesty, Unity was better (though pretty buggy and laggy until the end)!
  - Andrew_nenakhov 7y ago