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Fuel cost is far from being the dominating factor in TCO; that would be depreciation. I just ran Edmunds TCO calculator on an Audi A6: 5 year TCO of $70k, with

Fuel cost is far from being the dominating factor in TCO; that would be depreciation. I just ran Edmunds TCO calculator on an Audi A6: 5 year TCO of $70k, with depreciation over 5 years being $35k and fuel only contributing $9k. Electric cars are nowhere near an affordable means of transportation right now (that would be a Hyundai Accent), so GP point stands true.

robotresearcher 7y ago
How does the A6 compare with Model 3?
- flyinglizard 7y ago
  Haven’t compared the two up close but the Audi is bigger and probably has a nicer interior because that’s what Audi excels at. I’m inclined to give the rest to the Tesla.
- rconti 7y ago
  That's absurd. An A6 is a much bigger/nicer car than a Model 3. I'd say the A6 is Model S territory, both in size and price. Of course this is complicated by the lower running costs of the S, but the much more spartan interior, which was basic even in 2012. I've got a Model 3. It's a fantastic car, and as a BMW fan, I'd choose it all day every day over a BMW 3 series. But I'd take the A6 for the same price.
  - robotresearcher 7y ago
    The parent comment said "Electric cars are nowhere near an affordable means of transportation right now". The absolute niceness of an A6 doesn't seem directly relevant to that. Model 3s are expensive to buy for a mid size sedan. I was wondering about the TCO. I found an A5, M3 and Camry TCO comparison (link below): M3 comes out similar to Camry, and way less than A5. I think the M3 is a much more fun car to drive than the Camry. I haven't driven an A5. https://evannex.com/blogs/news/total-cost-of-ownership-tesla-model-3-vs-toyota-camry https://evannex.com/blogs/news/total-cost-of-ownership-tesla...
jupp0r 7y ago
Part of Teslas proposition is that leaving out the combustion engine will also reduce maintenance cost and reduce TCO that way.
tinco 7y ago
How does GP point stand true? Do you think in 20 years an electric car still has a TCO higher than a gasoline car? In any case, it's what Tesla's ambition is, even if electric cars still have a higher TCO then, it just means Tesla failed, not that it's the same kind of company as Boom is.

robotresearcher 7y ago

How does the A6 compare with Model 3?

flyinglizard 7y ago
Haven’t compared the two up close but the Audi is bigger and probably has a nicer interior because that’s what Audi excels at. I’m inclined to give the rest to the Tesla.
rconti 7y ago
That's absurd. An A6 is a much bigger/nicer car than a Model 3. I'd say the A6 is Model S territory, both in size and price. Of course this is complicated by the lower running costs of the S, but the much more spartan interior, which was basic even in 2012. I've got a Model 3. It's a fantastic car, and as a BMW fan, I'd choose it all day every day over a BMW 3 series. But I'd take the A6 for the same price.
- robotresearcher 7y ago
  The parent comment said "Electric cars are nowhere near an affordable means of transportation right now". The absolute niceness of an A6 doesn't seem directly relevant to that. Model 3s are expensive to buy for a mid size sedan. I was wondering about the TCO. I found an A5, M3 and Camry TCO comparison (link below): M3 comes out similar to Camry, and way less than A5. I think the M3 is a much more fun car to drive than the Camry. I haven't driven an A5. https://evannex.com/blogs/news/total-cost-of-ownership-tesla-model-3-vs-toyota-camry https://evannex.com/blogs/news/total-cost-of-ownership-tesla...

jupp0r 7y ago

Part of Teslas proposition is that leaving out the combustion engine will also reduce maintenance cost and reduce TCO that way.

tinco 7y ago

How does GP point stand true? Do you think in 20 years an electric car still has a TCO higher than a gasoline car? In any case, it's what Tesla's ambition is, even if electric cars still have a higher TCO then, it just means Tesla failed, not that it's the same kind of company as Boom is.