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What is Mozilla doing? They are endorsing the 'Google Home'? The 'Ring Doorbell'? Products from Nest? I guess it makes sense, with the amount of money they get

What is Mozilla doing? They are endorsing the 'Google Home'? The 'Ring Doorbell'? Products from Nest? I guess it makes sense, with the amount of money they get from Google- they have to. While these devices might have encryption, security updates, etc, many of the devices listed ABUSE user privacy. Many of the devices here ARE creepy! I could provide 10 links as proof, but it's not even worth the time. You can go ahead and 'Google' the proof. This is horrible. Edit- want some proof? Listen to these: https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/TD https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/TD

scrollaway 6y ago
You didn't look very closely at the website and just jumped to conclusions, didn't you? They rank all the ones you mentioned as "Super creepy".
- kotrunga 6y ago
  To a normal internet user, they make it look like they endorse the product. The 'meets our minimum security standards' seal is still next to the product.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    To you, who may be a normal internet user, it makes it seem like they endorse the product. I didn't see that at all. (Plus, a "normal internet user" has no idea how Mozilla makes money.)
    - tick_tock_tick 6y ago
      But they are endorsing the products the creepy is the user rating not Mozilla's.
- tick_tock_tick 6y ago
  Other way around Mozilla is endorsing google home as 5/5 "Overall Security Rating". Users going to this site have rated google home as creepy. Mozilla is not the one saying it's creepy they are giving it the 5/5.
  - scrollaway 6y ago
    Should Mozilla lie and say that the Google Home is insecure? "Insecure" and "Creepy" are not the same thing.
- moron4hire 6y ago
  We generally call not making your intention clear--making one impression more obvious than a detailed inspection--"Dark Patterns".
- eternalny1 6y ago
  The "creepy" factor is a user-rating, Mozilla IS saying these are endorsed (hence the "wreath").
  - netsharc 6y ago
    This site is a hot garbage of "yes but no but yes actually no"... This webcam[0] with a doggy treat dispenser attached to it gets the wreath, but when you scroll further down they tell you what's bad with it. On 2nd reading the wreath means "It meets our minimum security standard!". Woah, that's like giving a crown to someone finishing a 5K run 4 hours behind the leader, because "Reaching the finish means you're special!". And it's enough for the manufacturer to promise shit in writing ("Yeah we have a privacy policy, and we have a button that says 'Delete my data'.") to "meet their minimum security standards". It smells to me like the foundation is using their reputation for a money/favors grab ("That's a nice product you got, it would be bad if it didn't get our wreath.") -- maybe that's not their motivation, but that's what I'm smelling. The whole thing stinks it makes me wonder if I should uninstall Firefox... [0] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/products/furbo-dog-camera-with-dog-nanny/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/product...

scrollaway 6y ago

You didn't look very closely at the website and just jumped to conclusions, didn't you? They rank all the ones you mentioned as "Super creepy".

kotrunga 6y ago
To a normal internet user, they make it look like they endorse the product. The 'meets our minimum security standards' seal is still next to the product.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  To you, who may be a normal internet user, it makes it seem like they endorse the product. I didn't see that at all. (Plus, a "normal internet user" has no idea how Mozilla makes money.)
  - tick_tock_tick 6y ago
    But they are endorsing the products the creepy is the user rating not Mozilla's.
tick_tock_tick 6y ago
Other way around Mozilla is endorsing google home as 5/5 "Overall Security Rating". Users going to this site have rated google home as creepy. Mozilla is not the one saying it's creepy they are giving it the 5/5.
- scrollaway 6y ago
  Should Mozilla lie and say that the Google Home is insecure? "Insecure" and "Creepy" are not the same thing.
moron4hire 6y ago
We generally call not making your intention clear--making one impression more obvious than a detailed inspection--"Dark Patterns".
eternalny1 6y ago
The "creepy" factor is a user-rating, Mozilla IS saying these are endorsed (hence the "wreath").
- netsharc 6y ago
  This site is a hot garbage of "yes but no but yes actually no"... This webcam[0] with a doggy treat dispenser attached to it gets the wreath, but when you scroll further down they tell you what's bad with it. On 2nd reading the wreath means "It meets our minimum security standard!". Woah, that's like giving a crown to someone finishing a 5K run 4 hours behind the leader, because "Reaching the finish means you're special!". And it's enough for the manufacturer to promise shit in writing ("Yeah we have a privacy policy, and we have a button that says 'Delete my data'.") to "meet their minimum security standards". It smells to me like the foundation is using their reputation for a money/favors grab ("That's a nice product you got, it would be bad if it didn't get our wreath.") -- maybe that's not their motivation, but that's what I'm smelling. The whole thing stinks it makes me wonder if I should uninstall Firefox... [0] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/products/furbo-dog-camera-with-dog-nanny/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/product...