> If you're in the sahara desert you basically have all materials you need to create an iPhone. Not in a million billion years will there ever come an iPhone in

> If you're in the sahara desert you basically have all materials you need to create an iPhone. Not in a million billion years will there ever come an iPhone into existence by mere accident of natural forces in that desert, would there? The evidence says that actually did happen. Abiogenesis and the evolution of human beings were just part of the process of producing an iPhone through a "mere accident" of natural forces over the course of the last 4.5 billion years or so. Producing an iPhone was never the goal, of course–natural processes don't have goals. But it was one of the consequences. If God can exist without being created, so can what you refer to as "His creation". This idea that the visible universe requires a Creator, who in turn does not require a Creator, is arbitrary and capricious.