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>> While this is indeed overly complicated, you have to take into account the fact that there are websites of all shapes and sizes powered by WordPress these da

>> While this is indeed overly complicated, you have to take into account the fact that there are websites of all shapes and sizes powered by WordPress these days, and not just blogs, but things like eCommerce, booking, dating sites, forums and more, some of which would actually benefit from an overly complicated setup like this. It's amazing what runs on Wordpress and how relatively easy it is to scale with straightforward infrastructure. I think the diagram is for to enterprises which adore the complexity (because the enterprise architects won't be doing any of the maintenance), and is conditioning people to solutions which will have high consumption cost (because your money is best left with whatever cloud provider you choose.) That doesn't mean you shouldn't go all in on taking advantage of your cloud provider when you have a good model of costs and performance. However, you are best starting with the needs of the application and working from that point as you allude to.

folkhack 7y ago
> I think the diagram is for to enterprises which adore the complexity Bingo. Anecdotal experience: I saw this happen at my last position where they did an over-complicated/fragile WordPress setup with K8s. We went over to K8s for "performance optimization", "security", and "system stability"... what bothers me the most as a WordPress expert (specifically with HUGE/redundant rollouts) is that none of these reasons/bottlenecks were studied before designing the infrastructure. K8s is great, but if we start throwing arbitrary infra at our problems all we see is increased complexity without addressing the core tech issues. When I pushed to load test the new infra it was met with crickets - likely because that was never the goal in the first place. The goal was to jam a sexy technology into our stack so someone's quarterly goals were met with some lookin' pretty/SF-deluded engineering director that touts not knowing development/architecture makes him better in his role. Honestly - it's just job security, chasing a dragon, and cargo-cult for most of these orgs... if we were actually on the hook for "more with less" you would NEVER see an atrocity like what was posted. KISS is sure out of style when it comes to these fool's outrageous egos/budgets.
- zerkten 7y ago
  > KISS is sure out of style when it comes to these fool's outrageous egos/budgets. We will see how it survives this potential long-term economic downturn we are in, or approaching. I laughed out loud when you mentioned K8s for "security".

folkhack 7y ago

> I think the diagram is for to enterprises which adore the complexity Bingo. Anecdotal experience: I saw this happen at my last position where they did an over-complicated/fragile WordPress setup with K8s. We went over to K8s for "performance optimization", "security", and "system stability"... what bothers me the most as a WordPress expert (specifically with HUGE/redundant rollouts) is that none of these reasons/bottlenecks were studied before designing the infrastructure. K8s is great, but if we start throwing arbitrary infra at our problems all we see is increased complexity without addressing the core tech issues. When I pushed to load test the new infra it was met with crickets - likely because that was never the goal in the first place. The goal was to jam a sexy technology into our stack so someone's quarterly goals were met with some lookin' pretty/SF-deluded engineering director that touts not knowing development/architecture makes him better in his role. Honestly - it's just job security, chasing a dragon, and cargo-cult for most of these orgs... if we were actually on the hook for "more with less" you would NEVER see an atrocity like what was posted. KISS is sure out of style when it comes to these fool's outrageous egos/budgets.

zerkten 7y ago
> KISS is sure out of style when it comes to these fool's outrageous egos/budgets. We will see how it survives this potential long-term economic downturn we are in, or approaching. I laughed out loud when you mentioned K8s for "security".