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> by six it was hard to imagine our species surviving I suspect before we got near extinction point there would be plans for the last few tens of thousands to
by growlist 7y ago
> by six it was hard to imagine our species surviving
I suspect before we got near extinction point there would be plans for the last few tens of thousands to survive underground/underwater/in domes/at high altitude/latitude etc. We have people talking seriously about a colony on another planet, after all.
- take_a_breath 7y agoSounds like that would require significant planning and building. Who decides who “the last few tens of thousands” will be? What will everyone else think about that? People talk seriously about a lot of things, doesn’t mean they are viable or realistic.
- growlist 7y agoYou don't think these kinds of plans exist somewhere already?
- taylodl 7y agoNo. We didn't even have a plan for a pandemic, much less our extinction. There may have been some think tanks that have put some thought into it but I seriously doubt any plan was ever put into place.
- DennisP 7y agoI'd bet those plans do exist somewhere. We had plans for pandemic defense too, but we didn't bother actually stockpiling masks and ventilators. At least for that we can afford to catch up. The more intensive ideas like underground bases would have to be built well before modern civilization collapsed. They'd cost a lot, and we'll have less and less resources available as the damage worsens, so doing it in time might require more foresight than we've shown so far. Just going to high altitude would be less protective but relatively cheap. But any small refuge would have to deal with a lot of well-armed people fighting over it, plus epidemics brought on by overcrowding and mass migration. It might be safer to be on Mars. But sure, in theory a small population could eke out an existence in an enclosed base.
- throwaway5752 7y agoAll of those ideas are much more problematic than people acknowledge. I can only compare them to the badly conceived startup ideas that have gone under the minute easy money disappeared. In terms of underground or dome living, that has been attempted at small scale and timeframe and with external support and failed. People talk about a lot of things, but ultimately only 12 humans have ever step foot on anything other than the Earth, for total of less than a week. Mars is 500 times further away than the moon. The underground stuff is most plausible and has lots of issues. It is extremely frustrating to read stuff like this because it's easier and more likely to succeed to prevent global warming in the first place than it is to deal with the worst consequences.
- growlist 7y agoPlease post with a non-throwaway account, and I'll respond. Edit: since the name of your account is apparently inaccurate - I think you're comment is pretty daft, to be frank. I'm speculating that a few thousand souls might hang on after the deaths of billions, and you seem to be saying that merely talking about this prospect will make humanity collectively think 'hey! it's only going to be the vast majority of humanity that will die, so let's continue burning fossil fuels!'? Be serious.
- yifanl 7y agoI'm not sure if you've actually looked at the account, but it has a longer comment history than your own.
- growlist 7y agoAh, well perhaps a better name would help then.
- effingwewt 7y agoTo be fair how different is it from using a random name like 'growlist'? Since when does the handle someone uses to post correlate to the substance of said post?