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Bill Gates strikes me as someone who will be a villian to society as he ages. Bill Gates lacks the empathy necessary to design solutions with people in mind.

by wolco 7y ago

Bill Gates strikes me as someone who will be a villian to society as he ages. Bill Gates lacks the empathy necessary to design solutions with people in mind. The threat comes from the power he unleshes through his charity foundation. Things like ID2020 will be expanded. The forced vaccination program through excluding participation in society hasn't started yet. Chances are your kid will not be allowed in school without one at some point.

logicchains 7y ago
>Bill Gates strikes me as someone who will be a villian to society as he ages. To a lot of people who were in tech in the '90s, he was also a villain to society when he was younger.
- wolco 7y ago
  He was but really he had more of a commercial mindset that was against level playing fields and against free software. It didn't make him evil but not a role model either. Now that his imagine has changed and he is playing with medicine buying off the news he is more dangerous to everyone. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/bill-gates-foundation-philanthropy/ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/bill-gates-foundat...
Tainnor 7y ago
Everyone who doesn't get vaccinated even though they could is a risk to other people who e.g. can't get vaccinated due to health reasons. By contrast, that person benefits immensely from herd immunity. To me this is the definition of freeloading and therefore antisocial.
- tmn 7y ago
  That would be more fair if the same people who don't get the vaccine actively support the vaccine mandate. From my experience this is not true. They simply do not trust institution. Their motive is not free loading herd immunity and avoiding the hassle of doing it themselves.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    You can be a freeloader without thinking you're a freeloader, though.
  - Tainnor 7y ago
    So you'd be ok with dying from e.g. measles?
    - codr7 7y ago
      No one even came close to saying that. I had measles, didn't die from it. I also had several kinds of flu, didn't die from them either. I almost died in a climbing accident, and from drinking way too much alcohol in my teens. Plenty of lives are destroyed by side effects from vaccines, same thing with the current lock down, where do you draw the line? Blindly trusting science is about as smart as blindly trusting the catholic church, the issue was always blind trust. Big pharma has proven over and over and over again that the only thing they care about is profit; and given enough money, anything can be bought in this society. I know it's uncomfortable to question authority, but it's also a responsibility.
      - Tainnor 7y ago
        Glad you didn't die of measles. Unfortunately other people did. Please cite evidence of the lives destroyed by administering vaccines. I didn't claim that a lockdown has no adverse effect, quite the contrary. That's why a vaccine (which we don't have, sadly), of course only if it's safe and effective (which is what we generally test for, hence why it takes so long), would help: it would immunise us and we could stop the epidemic at a much lower cost to society than with lockdown. "Blindly trusting science" is not a thing; science is all about facts and evidence, not about trust. Please refrain from ad hominem.
        codr7 7y ago
        There's plenty of evidence out there, and plenty of motivation to shoot down any attempt at objective research. Which is where your brain and your responsibility to use it enter the picture. Of course it's about trust, science has been wrong about many things along the way, because of ignorance and lately to an increasing extent because of money. Please refrain from putting words in people's mouth to hide your ignorance.

by wolco 7y ago

logicchains 7y ago

>Bill Gates strikes me as someone who will be a villian to society as he ages. To a lot of people who were in tech in the '90s, he was also a villain to society when he was younger.

wolco 7y ago
He was but really he had more of a commercial mindset that was against level playing fields and against free software. It didn't make him evil but not a role model either. Now that his imagine has changed and he is playing with medicine buying off the news he is more dangerous to everyone. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/bill-gates-foundation-philanthropy/ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/bill-gates-foundat...

Tainnor 7y ago

Everyone who doesn't get vaccinated even though they could is a risk to other people who e.g. can't get vaccinated due to health reasons. By contrast, that person benefits immensely from herd immunity. To me this is the definition of freeloading and therefore antisocial.

tmn 7y ago
That would be more fair if the same people who don't get the vaccine actively support the vaccine mandate. From my experience this is not true. They simply do not trust institution. Their motive is not free loading herd immunity and avoiding the hassle of doing it themselves.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  You can be a freeloader without thinking you're a freeloader, though.
- Tainnor 7y ago
  So you'd be ok with dying from e.g. measles?
  - codr7 7y ago
    No one even came close to saying that. I had measles, didn't die from it. I also had several kinds of flu, didn't die from them either. I almost died in a climbing accident, and from drinking way too much alcohol in my teens. Plenty of lives are destroyed by side effects from vaccines, same thing with the current lock down, where do you draw the line? Blindly trusting science is about as smart as blindly trusting the catholic church, the issue was always blind trust. Big pharma has proven over and over and over again that the only thing they care about is profit; and given enough money, anything can be bought in this society. I know it's uncomfortable to question authority, but it's also a responsibility.
    - Tainnor 7y ago
      Glad you didn't die of measles. Unfortunately other people did. Please cite evidence of the lives destroyed by administering vaccines. I didn't claim that a lockdown has no adverse effect, quite the contrary. That's why a vaccine (which we don't have, sadly), of course only if it's safe and effective (which is what we generally test for, hence why it takes so long), would help: it would immunise us and we could stop the epidemic at a much lower cost to society than with lockdown. "Blindly trusting science" is not a thing; science is all about facts and evidence, not about trust. Please refrain from ad hominem.
      - codr7 7y ago
        There's plenty of evidence out there, and plenty of motivation to shoot down any attempt at objective research. Which is where your brain and your responsibility to use it enter the picture. Of course it's about trust, science has been wrong about many things along the way, because of ignorance and lately to an increasing extent because of money. Please refrain from putting words in people's mouth to hide your ignorance.