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We already have driver licenses. It wouldn't be too difficult to expand to driver license plus immunity card.

by kiba 7y ago

goatinaboat 7y ago
Or driving licence + vaccinations + eligibility to vote
triyambakam 7y ago
Well, what is unique is that this is a tattoo microchip, rather than a card
- yters 7y ago
  Where does the website say this? It is quite vague about implementation details, at least from what I can find. Closest I could find was a conspiracy theory linking a separate study into using quantum dots to record vaccination. https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/523/eaay7162 https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/523/eaay7162
  - aklhdq 7y ago
    It is not a microchip, but not a conspiracy theory either: http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218 http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218 "Funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the Koch Institute " Thankfully this won't fly in Germany, because the Nazis tattooed concentration camp victims with numbers. Not sure about the U.S. though.
    - crocodiletears 7y ago
      This is exactly the kind of thing the lunatic militias in the 90s were terrified about. Those people are still around, and if you try to give them 'the mark of the beast', for better or worse, there will be blood.
    - yters 7y ago
      But it is an invisible, beneath the skin imprint, and for a good reason to help with large scale vaccination. And without such vaccination, especially in the case of covid-19, millions could die. Who would argue with such a beneficial and convenient approach? However, for some reason ID2020 is distancing themselves from this quantum dot approach. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/conspiracy-theory-misinterprets-goals-of-gates-foundation/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/conspiracy-theory-misinter... "The Gates Foundation has advocated for expanded testing and has funded vaccine research, but neither of those involves implanted microchips." Technically true. Quantum dots aren't exactly microchips.
stronglikedan 7y ago
I don't know if ID2020 is being proposed as compulsory, but one is not required to obtain a driver's license, or any other form of state issued ID, in the US. If asked to present ID by an officer of the law, merely giving your full name and birth date is sufficient.
- hartator 7y ago
  You don’t have to answer even to that if there is no probable cause.
- mindslight 7y ago
  > one is not required to obtain a driver's license, or any other form of state issued ID, in the US Practically, one is required to obtain an ID to do many common activities. Being able to theoretically opt-out of these systems is a fiction that forms a cornerstone of their justification.

We already have driver licenses. It wouldn't be too difficult to expand to driver license plus immunity card.

by kiba 7y ago

We already have driver licenses. It wouldn't be too difficult to expand to driver license plus immunity card.

goatinaboat 7y ago

Or driving licence + vaccinations + eligibility to vote

triyambakam 7y ago

Well, what is unique is that this is a tattoo microchip, rather than a card

yters 7y ago
Where does the website say this? It is quite vague about implementation details, at least from what I can find. Closest I could find was a conspiracy theory linking a separate study into using quantum dots to record vaccination. https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/523/eaay7162 https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/523/eaay7162
- aklhdq 7y ago
  It is not a microchip, but not a conspiracy theory either: http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218 http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218 "Funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the Koch Institute " Thankfully this won't fly in Germany, because the Nazis tattooed concentration camp victims with numbers. Not sure about the U.S. though.
  - crocodiletears 7y ago
    This is exactly the kind of thing the lunatic militias in the 90s were terrified about. Those people are still around, and if you try to give them 'the mark of the beast', for better or worse, there will be blood.
  - yters 7y ago
    But it is an invisible, beneath the skin imprint, and for a good reason to help with large scale vaccination. And without such vaccination, especially in the case of covid-19, millions could die. Who would argue with such a beneficial and convenient approach? However, for some reason ID2020 is distancing themselves from this quantum dot approach. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/conspiracy-theory-misinterprets-goals-of-gates-foundation/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/conspiracy-theory-misinter... "The Gates Foundation has advocated for expanded testing and has funded vaccine research, but neither of those involves implanted microchips." Technically true. Quantum dots aren't exactly microchips.

stronglikedan 7y ago

I don't know if ID2020 is being proposed as compulsory, but one is not required to obtain a driver's license, or any other form of state issued ID, in the US. If asked to present ID by an officer of the law, merely giving your full name and birth date is sufficient.

hartator 7y ago
You don’t have to answer even to that if there is no probable cause.
mindslight 7y ago
> one is not required to obtain a driver's license, or any other form of state issued ID, in the US Practically, one is required to obtain an ID to do many common activities. Being able to theoretically opt-out of these systems is a fiction that forms a cornerstone of their justification.