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Is this your way of saying you're a programmer not a computer scientist? Because his job is as a scientist. Calling his exercises simple riddles is disrespectf

Is this your way of saying you're a programmer not a computer scientist? Because his job is as a scientist. Calling his exercises simple riddles is disrespectful. It's like calling doing a 5km run every morning, simple walking. The proof is in the pudding, he has impacted the world in a profound way. But on a more positive note. Which non-cs programmer heroes exists today? I'm thinking John Carmack.

vbezhenar 7y ago
Many people praise Fabrice Bellard. Not sure if he's counted as a non-scientist, but his achievements are astounding. Although I think that many heroes are hidden behind corporations. Those people who contributed most to Google Search or architectured Chrome. Those people who built systems everyone relies on. For example almost every Java project uses Spring Framework, but I'm sure that it was founded by one or few very talented people. And those examples are many, but not very public or exposed.
- danielscrubs 7y ago
  Fabrice Bellard seems like an awesome guy! Do you guys think programmers don't recognise each others work as much as in other fields?
  - vbezhenar 7y ago
    I don't really know much about other fields. Do architects recognize those who architected outstanding projects, like huge bridges and tallest skyscrapers?
paganel 7y ago
Yeah, of course I have never thought as myself as a computer scientist, I like my job/title as a programmer, I don't see any downside in that, manipulating data is fun. I don't personally have "programmer heroes", maybe it's because I'm 39 years old and as such I haven't believed in cowboy-like programmers for almost a decade now. I did strongly believe though in what Aaron Swartz used to do and in what he used to believe, i.e. an open internet and open data for almost everyone, but that dream died in the late 2000s - early 2010s and I don't think we'll ever going to get close to anything like that ever again.
- danielscrubs 7y ago
  No one said anything about cowboys? Just shining examples of programmers. Maybe you are your own hero?

vbezhenar 7y ago

Many people praise Fabrice Bellard. Not sure if he's counted as a non-scientist, but his achievements are astounding. Although I think that many heroes are hidden behind corporations. Those people who contributed most to Google Search or architectured Chrome. Those people who built systems everyone relies on. For example almost every Java project uses Spring Framework, but I'm sure that it was founded by one or few very talented people. And those examples are many, but not very public or exposed.

danielscrubs 7y ago
Fabrice Bellard seems like an awesome guy! Do you guys think programmers don't recognise each others work as much as in other fields?
- vbezhenar 7y ago
  I don't really know much about other fields. Do architects recognize those who architected outstanding projects, like huge bridges and tallest skyscrapers?

paganel 7y ago

Yeah, of course I have never thought as myself as a computer scientist, I like my job/title as a programmer, I don't see any downside in that, manipulating data is fun. I don't personally have "programmer heroes", maybe it's because I'm 39 years old and as such I haven't believed in cowboy-like programmers for almost a decade now. I did strongly believe though in what Aaron Swartz used to do and in what he used to believe, i.e. an open internet and open data for almost everyone, but that dream died in the late 2000s - early 2010s and I don't think we'll ever going to get close to anything like that ever again.

danielscrubs 7y ago
No one said anything about cowboys? Just shining examples of programmers. Maybe you are your own hero?