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Are you unaware of the degree of censorship in China? Taiwan's/other externals' reporting on happenings there are as close as you get to real journalism in Chi

Are you unaware of the degree of censorship in China? Taiwan's/other externals' reporting on happenings there are as close as you get to real journalism in China.

billfruit 7y ago
This is wrong. Credible agencies like AFP and Reuters operate in China.
- unityByFreedom 7y ago
  That China censors and controls media is not wrong. The only reason we have the tank man video is because the journalist hid the tape in the back of his room's toilet. Reporting via various foreign news outlets should also be taken with a grain of salt since they cannot get the full truth without endangering their presence. Three reputable newspapers were recently kicked out of the country. What's really going on in China is guesswork to a greater degree than elsewhere. The communist party prefers it this way.
  - billfruit 7y ago
    I meant it is journalistically wrong to depend upon dubious and unreliable sources as basis for analysis.. It can't be denied that there is much misinformation/mistranslation/misunderstanding regards news from China from such unreliable sources. That calls for a nuanced analysis, that is sorely lacking in debating China related topics here. I don't want to justify China, but the Wall Street Journal reporter who was ejected from Wuhan was overtly hostile, even cynical in their coverage, when the situation called for nuance. Also China officially has claimed the ejection of 3 US reporters a counter measure to the restrictions US has placed on Xinhua and People's Daily in operating in the US soil.
  - billfruit 7y ago
    Tank Man video too; I don't think it as significant as the west thinks it is. Chinese government now claims that it shows the 'humanity' of their armed forces.
    - unityByFreedom 7y ago
      Yes, so humane to bring in tanks to deal with a peaceful protest. Lol, I have to laugh because the viewpoint you present is so sad.
- surge 6y ago
  At the behest of the Chinese government, which means if they want to stay there they have to abide by the local censors. They still have to follow local laws, a foreign presence does not mean they are allowed to report honestly/freely. It's a basic, you follow our rules, and in turn we give you access, trade offs. Same thing happens often in media with reviewers.

Are you unaware of the degree of censorship in China? Taiwan's/other externals' reporting on happenings there are as close as you get to real journalism in China.

billfruit 7y ago

This is wrong. Credible agencies like AFP and Reuters operate in China.

unityByFreedom 7y ago
That China censors and controls media is not wrong. The only reason we have the tank man video is because the journalist hid the tape in the back of his room's toilet. Reporting via various foreign news outlets should also be taken with a grain of salt since they cannot get the full truth without endangering their presence. Three reputable newspapers were recently kicked out of the country. What's really going on in China is guesswork to a greater degree than elsewhere. The communist party prefers it this way.
- billfruit 7y ago
  I meant it is journalistically wrong to depend upon dubious and unreliable sources as basis for analysis.. It can't be denied that there is much misinformation/mistranslation/misunderstanding regards news from China from such unreliable sources. That calls for a nuanced analysis, that is sorely lacking in debating China related topics here. I don't want to justify China, but the Wall Street Journal reporter who was ejected from Wuhan was overtly hostile, even cynical in their coverage, when the situation called for nuance. Also China officially has claimed the ejection of 3 US reporters a counter measure to the restrictions US has placed on Xinhua and People's Daily in operating in the US soil.
- billfruit 7y ago
  Tank Man video too; I don't think it as significant as the west thinks it is. Chinese government now claims that it shows the 'humanity' of their armed forces.
  - unityByFreedom 7y ago
    Yes, so humane to bring in tanks to deal with a peaceful protest. Lol, I have to laugh because the viewpoint you present is so sad.
surge 6y ago
At the behest of the Chinese government, which means if they want to stay there they have to abide by the local censors. They still have to follow local laws, a foreign presence does not mean they are allowed to report honestly/freely. It's a basic, you follow our rules, and in turn we give you access, trade offs. Same thing happens often in media with reviewers.