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absolutley: public schools remain open for example. rather than enforce mandatory rules the government is encouraging personal responsibility. wfh is at 50% as

absolutley: public schools remain open for example. rather than enforce mandatory rules the government is encouraging personal responsibility. wfh is at 50% as is transit usage. source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/15/sweden-coronavirus-death-toll-reaches-1000 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/15/sweden-coronav...

henrikschroder 6y ago
> public schools remain open for example. Universities and high schools have been closed for almost a month now, that's pretty much the same timeline as most other countries. Elementary schools are not closed, but they're very empty, most kids are staying home. The reasoning behind this is that elementary schools function as babysitters, and this frees up adults in essential occupations so that they can go to work normally, instead of having to stay at home with their kids. There's also starting to appear evidence that kids might not be a serious disease vector, contrary to pretty much everyone's gut feeling. And this is what I mean by the reporting being bananas. It's very easy to look at the fact that "schools are open" and assume it's business as usual in Sweden. It absolutely isn't. It's also pretty funny that you linked an article from The Guardian, which breathlessly exclaims that Sweden has a death rate that's twice that of Denmark. Yeah, ok, but the death rate in the UK is twice that of Sweden. Pot meet kettle. If Sweden is doing twice as good as the UK, who the fuck are people in the UK to criticize Sweden's actions? It's as if a Swedish newspaper would criticize Denmark for having twice the death rate of Finland. It's absurd. The reporting is bananas. It's agenda-driven, not fact-driven.
- lbeltrame 6y ago
  > There's also starting to appear evidence that kids might not be a serious disease vector, contrary to pretty much everyone's gut feeling. This is intriguing. Any source where I can dig up further?
  - henrikschroder 6y ago
    https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/apr/school-closures-play-marginal-role-containing-covid-19-are-key-restarting-society https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/apr/school-closures-play-mar... "Professor Russell Viner (UCL Great Ormond Street Institute of Child Health and President of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health) said, "We know from previous studies that school closures are likely to have the greatest effect if the virus has low transmissibility and attack rates are higher in children. This is the opposite of COVID-19.""
    - lbeltrame 6y ago
      Thanks a lot. The article had also a link to the paper, which I read. It's for sure interesting that with SARS the results were inconsistent, as opposed to flu pandemics.

henrikschroder 6y ago

> public schools remain open for example. Universities and high schools have been closed for almost a month now, that's pretty much the same timeline as most other countries. Elementary schools are not closed, but they're very empty, most kids are staying home. The reasoning behind this is that elementary schools function as babysitters, and this frees up adults in essential occupations so that they can go to work normally, instead of having to stay at home with their kids. There's also starting to appear evidence that kids might not be a serious disease vector, contrary to pretty much everyone's gut feeling. And this is what I mean by the reporting being bananas. It's very easy to look at the fact that "schools are open" and assume it's business as usual in Sweden. It absolutely isn't. It's also pretty funny that you linked an article from The Guardian, which breathlessly exclaims that Sweden has a death rate that's twice that of Denmark. Yeah, ok, but the death rate in the UK is twice that of Sweden. Pot meet kettle. If Sweden is doing twice as good as the UK, who the fuck are people in the UK to criticize Sweden's actions? It's as if a Swedish newspaper would criticize Denmark for having twice the death rate of Finland. It's absurd. The reporting is bananas. It's agenda-driven, not fact-driven.

lbeltrame 6y ago
> There's also starting to appear evidence that kids might not be a serious disease vector, contrary to pretty much everyone's gut feeling. This is intriguing. Any source where I can dig up further?
- henrikschroder 6y ago
  https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/apr/school-closures-play-marginal-role-containing-covid-19-are-key-restarting-society https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/apr/school-closures-play-mar... "Professor Russell Viner (UCL Great Ormond Street Institute of Child Health and President of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health) said, "We know from previous studies that school closures are likely to have the greatest effect if the virus has low transmissibility and attack rates are higher in children. This is the opposite of COVID-19.""
  - lbeltrame 6y ago
    Thanks a lot. The article had also a link to the paper, which I read. It's for sure interesting that with SARS the results were inconsistent, as opposed to flu pandemics.