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When JEDI was first proposed, AWS had already been the vast majority of cloud services for the Intelligence community. This led to them having a distinct advant

When JEDI was first proposed, AWS had already been the vast majority of cloud services for the Intelligence community. This led to them having a distinct advantage because they already had the certified infrastructure to handle US Secret and Top Secret information. This was (in my own thoughts) why that immediate capability was stressed so much in the initial request for proposal.

sailfast 6y ago
First off - I don't know that it's normal for a competing company in a protest to post a press release like this. I know things have gotten nuts recently and people protest for giggles these days, but this seems... weird. I also wonder to a certain extent why additional ceiling was not added under the current vehicle to do this if AWS was the preferred solution. MOUs signed, dollars routed, etc seems to be the easiest route rather than a massive procurement for something like this. It doesn't make any sense unless they're awarding an entirely new data center. It also sounds like there's a disagreement about a core requirement / availability definitions which significantly impact storage costs, which obviously would change one's bid? https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252480585/AWS-hits-out-at-narrow-scope-of-DoDs-planned-re-evaluation-of-JEDI-cloud-contract https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252480585/AWS-hits-out-a... DoD IG Report on the process: https://www.scribd.com/document/456555063/Report-on-the-Joint-Enterprise-Defense-Infrastructure-Jedi-Cloud-Procurement-Dodig-2020-079#from_embed https://www.scribd.com/document/456555063/Report-on-the-Join...
partiallypro 6y ago
More likely the Amazon lobbied hard to make requirements a barrier to entry: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/24/pentagon-review-amazon-employees-influence-over-billion-government-contract/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/24/pentagon-... https://theintercept.com/2019/06/03/amazon-defense-department-jedi-contract/ https://theintercept.com/2019/06/03/amazon-defense-departmen... https://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/news/252467312/DoDs-JEDI-cloud-contract-favors-AWS-with-Microsoft-on-deck https://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/news/252467312/D...
blackflame7000 6y ago
The intelligence community uses SIPRNet or JWICS, not AWS that can be breached by some dev-ops as evidenced by the capital one incident.
- mr_overalls 6y ago
  In addition to those systems, they use an Amazon-built private cloud. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-d...
- jlgaddis 6y ago
  > The intelligence community uses SIPRNet or JWICS ... ... and AWS GovCloud [0]. --- [0]: https://aws.amazon.com/government-education/government/ https://aws.amazon.com/government-education/government/

sailfast 6y ago

First off - I don't know that it's normal for a competing company in a protest to post a press release like this. I know things have gotten nuts recently and people protest for giggles these days, but this seems... weird. I also wonder to a certain extent why additional ceiling was not added under the current vehicle to do this if AWS was the preferred solution. MOUs signed, dollars routed, etc seems to be the easiest route rather than a massive procurement for something like this. It doesn't make any sense unless they're awarding an entirely new data center. It also sounds like there's a disagreement about a core requirement / availability definitions which significantly impact storage costs, which obviously would change one's bid? https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252480585/AWS-hits-out-at-narrow-scope-of-DoDs-planned-re-evaluation-of-JEDI-cloud-contract https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252480585/AWS-hits-out-a... DoD IG Report on the process: https://www.scribd.com/document/456555063/Report-on-the-Joint-Enterprise-Defense-Infrastructure-Jedi-Cloud-Procurement-Dodig-2020-079#from_embed https://www.scribd.com/document/456555063/Report-on-the-Join...

partiallypro 6y ago

More likely the Amazon lobbied hard to make requirements a barrier to entry: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/24/pentagon-review-amazon-employees-influence-over-billion-government-contract/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/24/pentagon-... https://theintercept.com/2019/06/03/amazon-defense-department-jedi-contract/ https://theintercept.com/2019/06/03/amazon-defense-departmen... https://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/news/252467312/DoDs-JEDI-cloud-contract-favors-AWS-with-Microsoft-on-deck https://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/news/252467312/D...

blackflame7000 6y ago

The intelligence community uses SIPRNet or JWICS, not AWS that can be breached by some dev-ops as evidenced by the capital one incident.

mr_overalls 6y ago
In addition to those systems, they use an Amazon-built private cloud. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-d...
jlgaddis 6y ago
> The intelligence community uses SIPRNet or JWICS ... ... and AWS GovCloud [0]. --- [0]: https://aws.amazon.com/government-education/government/ https://aws.amazon.com/government-education/government/