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Come on, all the data is out there. There's been 2 million confirmed cases. Pretty much every expert agrees theres far more undiagnosed cases. We know the tes

Come on, all the data is out there. There's been 2 million confirmed cases. Pretty much every expert agrees theres far more undiagnosed cases. We know the testing rates. We know who's being tested. The information is out there. Our local health authority is literally giving away PPE... Seems your only argument is that the idea it's not as dangerous as initially assumed "might put people in danger". Except the fallout definitely will. Shutting down the economy, limiting health care access has real consequences.

wbronitsky 7y ago
I’m not asserting anything other than that this argument is not based on data. The data aren’t there, you aren’t an expert, and this argument doesn’t help anyone. That’s the most positive read I can give what I consider to be a reckless take, and this take will be EVERYWHERE in the next few weeks. We need to guard ourselves because this take is deceptive; it lets us feel superior to everyone who is freaking out, which will help individuals calm down at the expense of public health.
- Mikeb85 7y ago
  If you want to be a doomer and ignore actual stats in favour of alarmism go ahead. It's your life. If you want to ever take your head out of the sand, here's some resources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-... https://covid19.who.int/ https://covid19.who.int/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-immunity.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-immun... Here's the only stat I actually, truly give a shit about: my province has 4 million people in it and 50 deaths.
  - Lewton 7y ago
    > Here's the only stat I actually, truly give a shit about: my province has 4 million people in it and 50 deaths. What would you expect this to look like without a lockdown
    - Mikeb85 7y ago
      Probably something more like Sweden but then again, our demographics are pretty good. Either way, I'd expect all the potential deaths in a shorter timeframe. What I really would have preferred is a response more akin to Taiwan's. A lockdown was required because of how lax we were in allowing travellers to return from China and Europe with virtually no screening. Had we simply taken it seriously in January (our government was shockingly nonchalant back then) we could have avoided a lot.

wbronitsky 7y ago

I’m not asserting anything other than that this argument is not based on data. The data aren’t there, you aren’t an expert, and this argument doesn’t help anyone. That’s the most positive read I can give what I consider to be a reckless take, and this take will be EVERYWHERE in the next few weeks. We need to guard ourselves because this take is deceptive; it lets us feel superior to everyone who is freaking out, which will help individuals calm down at the expense of public health.

Mikeb85 7y ago
If you want to be a doomer and ignore actual stats in favour of alarmism go ahead. It's your life. If you want to ever take your head out of the sand, here's some resources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-... https://covid19.who.int/ https://covid19.who.int/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-immunity.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-immun... Here's the only stat I actually, truly give a shit about: my province has 4 million people in it and 50 deaths.
- Lewton 7y ago
  > Here's the only stat I actually, truly give a shit about: my province has 4 million people in it and 50 deaths. What would you expect this to look like without a lockdown
  - Mikeb85 7y ago
    Probably something more like Sweden but then again, our demographics are pretty good. Either way, I'd expect all the potential deaths in a shorter timeframe. What I really would have preferred is a response more akin to Taiwan's. A lockdown was required because of how lax we were in allowing travellers to return from China and Europe with virtually no screening. Had we simply taken it seriously in January (our government was shockingly nonchalant back then) we could have avoided a lot.