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Is there a public log of comments and users that have been banned under this policy? Just looking at the comments you responded to in those searches, they all
by viklove 7y ago
Is there a public log of comments and users that have been banned under this policy?
Just looking at the comments you responded to in those searches, they all seem to slant one direction -- stating that HN overmoderates anti-VC rhetoric. I can't find a single person on the other side complaining, so it seems to just prove exactly what I was saying earlier.
Can you find a single example in your moderation history where you called out an anti-Democratic Socialist comment for flamebaiting? Or where you found someone deriding wage workers and their inability to climb the economic ladder? There are plenty of these comments on HN, at least as many as the opposite, and yet I can't find one comment in your history that responds to them.
Is it possible that your political bias is affecting your moderation? Have you become the very thing you sought to destroy?
- dang 7y agoI can point you to plenty of comments complaining that the site and mods have an overwhelming political bias in direction $whatever-you-want. Not sure if that's what you're asking for.
- viklove 7y agoYeah that's exactly what I'm asking for, please point me to any comments that you have responded to (like you responded to me), where the comment was defending American capitalism or deriding Democratic Socialist concepts such as UBI, universal healthcare, etc.
- dang 6y agoSorry for the delay. I don't keep track of the moderation comments that way but I guarantee you that there have been hundreds of such cases. Since we moderate posts that break the site guidelines, and both sides break the site guidelines a lot, we end up moderating both sides. The irony is how much they have in common. Mask one or two bits and they come out pretty interchangeable. What I do collect are denunciations of how ideologically biased the mods and/or community are. I'm fascinated by the conviction with which people spout them, and (like I just said) how interchangeable they are with their opposites. Here's a goodie—"Hope you’re a San Francisco liberal or your opinions are banned": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20438487 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20438487 "The mods here are radical liberals": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15032682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15032682 "Dang is an SJW cunt": https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=BetterThanSlave https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=BetterThanSlave A bit less eloquent: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19471335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19471335 "Nah, HN isn't biased to the left at all, dang": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21325122 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21325122 "Socalist-leaning mods": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15546533 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15546533 ..."publishing left-wing propaganda": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19912334 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19912334 ...for our "far-left social justice agenda": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20742578 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20742578 There are a lot of these. A few more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21803541 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21803541 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22256458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22256458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15307915 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15307915 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21588105 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21588105 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16397133 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16397133 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21907232 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21907232 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15752730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15752730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18189135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18189135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15585780 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15585780 All: if you're finding yourself agreeing with these comments, please don't miss the point: there's another passionate litany of complaints in the opposite direction. Elsewhere I have posted opposite lists of links. What's actually going on here is cognitive bias: people place tremendous weight on the cases they run across and dislike, and skip over the cases that go the other way (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20notice%20dislike&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). Since HN gets millions of comments a year, and thousands of posts by mods, both sides have lots of material to select from.