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Note though that the study, its methods and especially its politically charged presentation by repeat social media offenders are still disputed [1] [1] https:/

Note though that the study, its methods and especially its politically charged presentation by repeat social media offenders are still disputed [1] [1] https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/offene-fragen-heinsberg-studie-corona-100.html https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/offene-fragen-heinsberg-stud...

Barrin92 7y ago
Today there's been a new result from antibody tests in the netherlands done on blood dononrs which showed about 3% infection rate. Extrapolated to the population that would imply 500k infections, 20x higher than the official stats. The Heinsberg study isn't the only source pointing to this. Almost a month ago the NYT also ran a story on randomly tested Iranian airplane passengers which suggested that as of that time there may already have been 500k-5mil infections in the country. https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/dutch-study-suggests-3-per-cent-of-population-may-have-coronavirus-antibodies https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/dutch-study-sugges...
- perl4ever 7y ago
  Possibly dumb question, how do we know someone with antibodies was exposed? The whole idea of vaccination is based on multiple things producing the same antibodies, so isn't it plausible there could be related viruses or genetic factors or something that would lead to antibodies for some people that hadn't been exposed?
  - Barrin92 7y ago
    Yes, there is the chance of false positives with antibody tests, in particular for other strains of Corona, but scientists can do a sample of antibody tests on people they know to have been infected with covid-19 and get a rate for false positives and take that into account.
- Lewton 7y ago
  Netherlands is currently at 30000 cases with 3000 dead, cfr of 10%. 20x infection would put the IFR at 0.5% which is well in line with what is expected

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Note though that the study, its methods and especially its politically charged presentation by repeat social media offenders are still disputed [1] [1] https:/

by endymi0n 7y ago

Barrin92 7y ago
Today there's been a new result from antibody tests in the netherlands done on blood dononrs which showed about 3% infection rate. Extrapolated to the population that would imply 500k infections, 20x higher than the official stats. The Heinsberg study isn't the only source pointing to this. Almost a month ago the NYT also ran a story on randomly tested Iranian airplane passengers which suggested that as of that time there may already have been 500k-5mil infections in the country. https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/dutch-study-suggests-3-per-cent-of-population-may-have-coronavirus-antibodies https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/dutch-study-sugges...
- perl4ever 7y ago
  Possibly dumb question, how do we know someone with antibodies was exposed? The whole idea of vaccination is based on multiple things producing the same antibodies, so isn't it plausible there could be related viruses or genetic factors or something that would lead to antibodies for some people that hadn't been exposed?
  - Barrin92 7y ago
    Yes, there is the chance of false positives with antibody tests, in particular for other strains of Corona, but scientists can do a sample of antibody tests on people they know to have been infected with covid-19 and get a rate for false positives and take that into account.
- Lewton 7y ago
  Netherlands is currently at 30000 cases with 3000 dead, cfr of 10%. 20x infection would put the IFR at 0.5% which is well in line with what is expected