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I also can't recommend them. Service is operational when working, but the times it isn't working as expected I don't have the patience to message support. Thing

by atian 7y ago

I also can't recommend them. Service is operational when working, but the times it isn't working as expected I don't have the patience to message support. Things just aren't straightforward. This was 2 years ago when I used them to run a couple of Windows apps for work.

techntoke 7y ago
Same here, except I did message support and just as you'd expect they gave me the run around.
JPKab 7y ago
Just saying that on Paperspace, it's all about using the storage folder. Had some challenges before, but definitely getting a lot of value out of it now. I think the product has a ton of potential, but certainly has warts to iron out. I've so far just used gradient, and haven't experimented with the core APIs feature yet, but looking forward to seeing what can be done there.
rvnx 7y ago
I had issues with Paperspace too, switched over to Shadow. I pay +/- 14 USD per month for a computer with 4 cores @ 3.4 GHz, 12 GB RAM, GTX 1080, 256 GB SSD. No commitment. I'm not sure where is the good deal with Workstream ?
- aspenmayer 7y ago
  That seems like an amazing deal. Can you drop a link to Shadow? That's such a vague name I don't have a lot to go on. I am interested to dig into the details of this deal. Is there some kind of Acceptable Use Policy or is it more like a pay-as-you-go VPS?
  - moontear 7y ago
    Not OP but https://shadow.tech/ https://shadow.tech/
    - aspenmayer 7y ago
      Thanks. Looks like Windows only for now, but at least future Linux support is alluded to in their FAQ. https://shadow.tech/usen/faq/operating-system/can-i-use-shadow-with-linux-instead-of-windows-as-the-operating-system https://shadow.tech/usen/faq/operating-system/can-i-use-shad...
- ericd 7y ago
  How does that pencil out? Is that shared? If it's dedicated, assuming a 3 year useful life, that comes out to ~$504, which barely covers the graphics card. I guess the 1080 is kind of old now, maybe that helps.
  - KMnO4 7y ago
    A couple points: 1. It advertises itself as a gaming service, not a 9-5+overtime service. Granted, some people do game for >8 hours per day, but those people probably own their own hardware. Which leads into... 2. Many people used cloud gaming services for casual play. It doesn’t make sense for someone to buy a gaming computer when all they want is the occasional PUBG match or to play a grand total of 15 hours of Far Cry. With those two assumptions, you can oversell the machines because the average user will be offline for the majority of the time.
    - ericd 7y ago
      Ah makes sense, thanks. I'm guessing that if a number of people start using it for ML workloads, they're going to tamp down on that. Because holy crap, that's an awesome deal, $14/instance doesn't even pay for the power for a 24/7 ML workload. But maybe the messaging will be enough to stop a significant number of people from jumping on that.
- dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
  Unfortunately Shadow is unavailable in the UK until August. Apart from that, it's a way better deal than Workstream.

by atian 7y ago

techntoke 7y ago

Same here, except I did message support and just as you'd expect they gave me the run around.

JPKab 7y ago

Just saying that on Paperspace, it's all about using the storage folder. Had some challenges before, but definitely getting a lot of value out of it now. I think the product has a ton of potential, but certainly has warts to iron out. I've so far just used gradient, and haven't experimented with the core APIs feature yet, but looking forward to seeing what can be done there.

rvnx 7y ago

I had issues with Paperspace too, switched over to Shadow. I pay +/- 14 USD per month for a computer with 4 cores @ 3.4 GHz, 12 GB RAM, GTX 1080, 256 GB SSD. No commitment. I'm not sure where is the good deal with Workstream ?

aspenmayer 7y ago
That seems like an amazing deal. Can you drop a link to Shadow? That's such a vague name I don't have a lot to go on. I am interested to dig into the details of this deal. Is there some kind of Acceptable Use Policy or is it more like a pay-as-you-go VPS?
- moontear 7y ago
  Not OP but https://shadow.tech/ https://shadow.tech/
  - aspenmayer 7y ago
    Thanks. Looks like Windows only for now, but at least future Linux support is alluded to in their FAQ. https://shadow.tech/usen/faq/operating-system/can-i-use-shadow-with-linux-instead-of-windows-as-the-operating-system https://shadow.tech/usen/faq/operating-system/can-i-use-shad...
ericd 7y ago
How does that pencil out? Is that shared? If it's dedicated, assuming a 3 year useful life, that comes out to ~$504, which barely covers the graphics card. I guess the 1080 is kind of old now, maybe that helps.
- KMnO4 7y ago
  A couple points: 1. It advertises itself as a gaming service, not a 9-5+overtime service. Granted, some people do game for >8 hours per day, but those people probably own their own hardware. Which leads into... 2. Many people used cloud gaming services for casual play. It doesn’t make sense for someone to buy a gaming computer when all they want is the occasional PUBG match or to play a grand total of 15 hours of Far Cry. With those two assumptions, you can oversell the machines because the average user will be offline for the majority of the time.
  - ericd 7y ago
    Ah makes sense, thanks. I'm guessing that if a number of people start using it for ML workloads, they're going to tamp down on that. Because holy crap, that's an awesome deal, $14/instance doesn't even pay for the power for a 24/7 ML workload. But maybe the messaging will be enough to stop a significant number of people from jumping on that.
dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
Unfortunately Shadow is unavailable in the UK until August. Apart from that, it's a way better deal than Workstream.