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Do you really think that all people with cardiovascular and respiratory issues are 'paying the price for their choices'? I guess asthma sufferers (such as the n

by kian 7y ago

Do you really think that all people with cardiovascular and respiratory issues are 'paying the price for their choices'? I guess asthma sufferers (such as the nurse who ran marathons but had exercise-induced asthma who died recently), people with congenital heart issues, and immunocompromised patients and those with auto-immune disorders all just should have chosen not to be born with their respective illnesses? And tsk tsk for all of those foolish people currently on cancer treatment - don't they know that cancer is easy to avoid because we know every cause? Even if you believe that the majority of people with these conditions are at fault - just be clear that the people who 'caused this to themselves' will not be the only ones who suffer. -- edited to remove an uncharitable reading and response --

TopHand 7y ago
Yes there are those who suffer through no consequence of their own. But they are in the minority. I'm guessing that the majority of people with these compromises have been smoking, drinking and made poor lifestyle choices. I didn't feel I needed to write a complete essay covering every possible case. Yes there are innocent victims. But again, the majority are probably from lifestyle choices. I was not arguing to be allowed to wonder the streets. I was arguing that there are consequences to every direction we turn and that we need to consider what kind of future we want in the following decades. This will eventually end. What do we want life to look like when it ends? Just for your info, I live a fairly isolated life on a working ranch. My wife and I can go as long as a month without seeing another human being. My lifestyle has not changed all that much other than the fact that at the base level of the food supply, I can see that shortages are coming. Most living Americans have not lived through food shortages. The big political question of the coming years may not be how do we distribute the wealth, but how do we ease the hunger!
- kian 7y ago
  I apologize for the uncharitable reading and response. I have a number of friends with immune disorders and heart issues through no fault of their own, and I was too hasty in my response. It is true that all of the decisions to be made going forward are unpalatable. Sadly, I don't think that any of the ones that are least likely to hurt us in the long run will be chosen. Stay safe out there.

by kian 7y ago

TopHand 7y ago

Yes there are those who suffer through no consequence of their own. But they are in the minority. I'm guessing that the majority of people with these compromises have been smoking, drinking and made poor lifestyle choices. I didn't feel I needed to write a complete essay covering every possible case. Yes there are innocent victims. But again, the majority are probably from lifestyle choices. I was not arguing to be allowed to wonder the streets. I was arguing that there are consequences to every direction we turn and that we need to consider what kind of future we want in the following decades. This will eventually end. What do we want life to look like when it ends? Just for your info, I live a fairly isolated life on a working ranch. My wife and I can go as long as a month without seeing another human being. My lifestyle has not changed all that much other than the fact that at the base level of the food supply, I can see that shortages are coming. Most living Americans have not lived through food shortages. The big political question of the coming years may not be how do we distribute the wealth, but how do we ease the hunger!

kian 7y ago
I apologize for the uncharitable reading and response. I have a number of friends with immune disorders and heart issues through no fault of their own, and I was too hasty in my response. It is true that all of the decisions to be made going forward are unpalatable. Sadly, I don't think that any of the ones that are least likely to hurt us in the long run will be chosen. Stay safe out there.