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So, if I understand you properly, being sick enough that you need to be in a hospital is bad for your health? And the sicker you are the more likely it is tha

So, if I understand you properly, being sick enough that you need to be in a hospital is bad for your health? And the sicker you are the more likely it is that you won't recover? Are you positing that the same people would have better survival rates at home?

barkingcat 6y ago
There is no cure or treatment for covid-19. The standard of care for home patients are: stay home, self isolate from other members of the household, drink lots of fluids, do-or-don't-take-these-several-kinds-of-otc-meds (conflicting findings about anti-inflammatory drugs), etc. and let your body heal itself, or die. At the hospital, they have additional equipment: the ability to isolate you so you don't infect anyone else, provide oxygen at a higher purity and rate, various drugs and techniques to facilitate your body to heal itself (for ex. medically induced coma), and the ventilator and ecmo's which take over certain body functions so your damaged organs don't have to (ie mechanical lung, mechanical kidney (dialysis), mechanical heart, etc). None of those items are cures. Novel coronavirus means New to human biology - no body, including evolution, has seen this before and no, we don't have a cure. Going to the hospital means there are no other options other than to put you on extraordinary measures - of course it means that you might not recover. Again, there is no cure at the moment, no pill you can take to get better. [edit: the exception is if you get into one of those drug trials at a hospital that is offering experimental treatments - it could be worth it - since you'd be offering your body to science to fight this virus. Pasteur had to infect himself in order to test his vaccines, many of those on experimental trials are just like him - bravely trying things out to see if they work.] Stay at home everyone, so we can properly investigate. In IT outage terms, this is the time when all systems are down, and the incident commander is going "I know that all the database servers are down," "no I don't know why," and "could you please stop issuing extraneous replication requests to the master server?? issuing replication right now is no use because the master server is just not there."
- mrunkel 6y ago
  I agree with you. I was trying to understand the other guy's reasoning.

barkingcat 6y ago

There is no cure or treatment for covid-19. The standard of care for home patients are: stay home, self isolate from other members of the household, drink lots of fluids, do-or-don't-take-these-several-kinds-of-otc-meds (conflicting findings about anti-inflammatory drugs), etc. and let your body heal itself, or die. At the hospital, they have additional equipment: the ability to isolate you so you don't infect anyone else, provide oxygen at a higher purity and rate, various drugs and techniques to facilitate your body to heal itself (for ex. medically induced coma), and the ventilator and ecmo's which take over certain body functions so your damaged organs don't have to (ie mechanical lung, mechanical kidney (dialysis), mechanical heart, etc). None of those items are cures. Novel coronavirus means New to human biology - no body, including evolution, has seen this before and no, we don't have a cure. Going to the hospital means there are no other options other than to put you on extraordinary measures - of course it means that you might not recover. Again, there is no cure at the moment, no pill you can take to get better. [edit: the exception is if you get into one of those drug trials at a hospital that is offering experimental treatments - it could be worth it - since you'd be offering your body to science to fight this virus. Pasteur had to infect himself in order to test his vaccines, many of those on experimental trials are just like him - bravely trying things out to see if they work.] Stay at home everyone, so we can properly investigate. In IT outage terms, this is the time when all systems are down, and the incident commander is going "I know that all the database servers are down," "no I don't know why," and "could you please stop issuing extraneous replication requests to the master server?? issuing replication right now is no use because the master server is just not there."

mrunkel 6y ago
I agree with you. I was trying to understand the other guy's reasoning.