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And the hundreds of thousands dead around the world?

dusted 7y ago
I'm fairly certain that number would be _A_LOT_ higher if nobody isolated. I'm also speculating that the general amount of people dying from infectious disease will fall, the flu takes a toll every year, we could prevent a lot of those. Why suffer through the common cold if you can simply avoid getting it to begin with? As I read your question again, I think you may have misunderstood what I meant in my previous post. I do not think the actual virus is a good thing, I wish for that to be over as soon as possible, but the isolation part, more of that please.
- djsumdog 7y ago
  Are you suggesting this should be a regular thing? I get that maybe some aspects of your personal experience are better. I don't like shaking hands either and wish we bowed like some East Asians. But your words feel like they don't truly understand the ramifications of the life and death struggles going on in hospitals, or that the vast majority of human beings that are not you, evolved to need a good amount of social interaction. This is not normal and should never ever considered being any type of normal. We can deal with the fatalities, and it is tragic, but the long term effects on society and the erosion of our rights and civil liberties will take decades to recover from. This is not a time of honor.
  - dusted 7y ago
    If people don't stay bloody home, this IS going to be a regular thing. But that social need that some have developed, is what's going to cost those lives and cause that struggle, so how I could be the one not understanding the ramifications, I fail to see entirely. I'm basically saying "staying at home is nice, and is doing good for my mental health" and the response I get is "People are dying! Don't you understand that!" I don't see the connection. The underlying cause of WHY people has to stay at home is terrible, but the fact that they do have to stay at home, is what I commented on. I hate that people are dying, I hate that my parents and wife are at risk, I hate that the healthcare systems around the world are breaking down, and I that people can't just stay home so that those I care about can be safe. Me enjoying the isolation has no bearing on whether the COVID pandemic will continue for shorter or longer, me not hating to be alone and isolated does not change the course whats happening, and even if it did, it would be in a positive way, because I'm not out there, spreading the virus. What? Should I feel guilty because something terrible is happening, and it just so happens that a side-effect of that is something I like? Does that somehow imply that I wish the pandemic to continue or people to die? I don't know what honor has to do with it.
mushbino 7y ago
The article and the response above are about the mental toll of social distancing.
- dusted 7y ago
  Yes, indeed, and I think the article fails to take into account that while some have a difficult time coping with this, others are doing better than normal.
dijit 7y ago
This comment was surely made in bad faith. Just because something good came out of this on a personal level does not 'negate' the negative in any way. Bad things can have some good consequences, however minor. (See: technological advancement in times of war. Or illegal human experiments impact on science). You're saying nothing by trying to imply a negative thing is the cause, we are aware.

I'm fairly certain that number would be _A_LOT_ higher if nobody isolated. I'm also speculating that the general amount of people dying from infectious disease will fall, the flu takes a toll every year, we could prevent a lot of those. Why suffer through the common cold if you can simply avoid getting it to begin with? As I read your question again, I think you may have misunderstood what I meant in my previous post. I do not think the actual virus is a good thing, I wish for that to be over as soon as possible, but the isolation part, more of that please.

djsumdog 7y ago
Are you suggesting this should be a regular thing? I get that maybe some aspects of your personal experience are better. I don't like shaking hands either and wish we bowed like some East Asians. But your words feel like they don't truly understand the ramifications of the life and death struggles going on in hospitals, or that the vast majority of human beings that are not you, evolved to need a good amount of social interaction. This is not normal and should never ever considered being any type of normal. We can deal with the fatalities, and it is tragic, but the long term effects on society and the erosion of our rights and civil liberties will take decades to recover from. This is not a time of honor.
- dusted 7y ago
  If people don't stay bloody home, this IS going to be a regular thing. But that social need that some have developed, is what's going to cost those lives and cause that struggle, so how I could be the one not understanding the ramifications, I fail to see entirely. I'm basically saying "staying at home is nice, and is doing good for my mental health" and the response I get is "People are dying! Don't you understand that!" I don't see the connection. The underlying cause of WHY people has to stay at home is terrible, but the fact that they do have to stay at home, is what I commented on. I hate that people are dying, I hate that my parents and wife are at risk, I hate that the healthcare systems around the world are breaking down, and I that people can't just stay home so that those I care about can be safe. Me enjoying the isolation has no bearing on whether the COVID pandemic will continue for shorter or longer, me not hating to be alone and isolated does not change the course whats happening, and even if it did, it would be in a positive way, because I'm not out there, spreading the virus. What? Should I feel guilty because something terrible is happening, and it just so happens that a side-effect of that is something I like? Does that somehow imply that I wish the pandemic to continue or people to die? I don't know what honor has to do with it.

mushbino 7y ago

The article and the response above are about the mental toll of social distancing.

dusted 7y ago
Yes, indeed, and I think the article fails to take into account that while some have a difficult time coping with this, others are doing better than normal.

dijit 7y ago

This comment was surely made in bad faith. Just because something good came out of this on a personal level does not 'negate' the negative in any way. Bad things can have some good consequences, however minor. (See: technological advancement in times of war. Or illegal human experiments impact on science). You're saying nothing by trying to imply a negative thing is the cause, we are aware.