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And that's also unfortunately why the death rate is so unconscionably high here in NY: our leaders failed us and shut down way too late.

legolas2412 7y ago
And that is why I find it hilarious to see everybody fawning over governer Cuomo now.
- ashtonkem 7y ago
  It’s still unclear to me whether Cuomo dropped the ball, or whether he was hindered by De Blasio. Either way, Inslee and Breed deserve more credit. Preventing a crisis is superior to responding effectively after its started.
  - hilbertseries 7y ago
    No, De Blasio wanted to issue a shelter in place order on March 17 and Cuomo said absolutely not. Then eventually Cuomo comes around and they start a shelter in place on March 22nd.
  - CydeWeys 7y ago
    They both dropped the ball big time. de Blasio went to the gym on literally the last day before those kinds of businesses were shuttered. He kept waffling on shuttering the schools and waited way too late. He only started taking things seriously when the heads of his department of health threatened to resign if he didn't take more action. See e.g.: https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/new-york-city/coronavirus-de-blasios-katrina.html https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/new-york-ci... They both started off as a complete joke on this. Cuomo has at least since been improving, but de Blasio remains a complete joke. He's incapable of so much as even closing some empty streets (or some lanes on streets) to give pedestrians more space to spread out. Other cities have been doing this to great success, but de Blasio has only ever understood things from the perspective of being behind a windshield.
- bduerst 7y ago
  I'm not so sure it's 'fawning' so much as he's in the spotlight so much because his state is currently the worst.
  - CydeWeys 7y ago
    There has definitely been plenty of fawning, I can confirm.
thorwasdfasdf 7y ago
It's not their fault. The disease hit New York first before it hit anywhere else in the US and hence had a lot of time to develop. I heard from one source, that it was already present in New York back in december and that one of the first worldwide cases came to New york early. that was from a Joe Rogan podcast episode.
- rhizome 7y ago
  We don't even know if "time to develop" in that way is even a thing in reality.
- ashtonkem 7y ago
  Given the close economic and cultural ties between the west coast and Asia, I find it very hard to believe that Coronavirus travelled through Europe to NYC before it travelled directly from China to LA or SF.

legolas2412 7y ago

And that is why I find it hilarious to see everybody fawning over governer Cuomo now.

ashtonkem 7y ago
It’s still unclear to me whether Cuomo dropped the ball, or whether he was hindered by De Blasio. Either way, Inslee and Breed deserve more credit. Preventing a crisis is superior to responding effectively after its started.
- hilbertseries 7y ago
  No, De Blasio wanted to issue a shelter in place order on March 17 and Cuomo said absolutely not. Then eventually Cuomo comes around and they start a shelter in place on March 22nd.
- CydeWeys 7y ago
  They both dropped the ball big time. de Blasio went to the gym on literally the last day before those kinds of businesses were shuttered. He kept waffling on shuttering the schools and waited way too late. He only started taking things seriously when the heads of his department of health threatened to resign if he didn't take more action. See e.g.: https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/new-york-city/coronavirus-de-blasios-katrina.html https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/new-york-ci... They both started off as a complete joke on this. Cuomo has at least since been improving, but de Blasio remains a complete joke. He's incapable of so much as even closing some empty streets (or some lanes on streets) to give pedestrians more space to spread out. Other cities have been doing this to great success, but de Blasio has only ever understood things from the perspective of being behind a windshield.
bduerst 7y ago
I'm not so sure it's 'fawning' so much as he's in the spotlight so much because his state is currently the worst.
- CydeWeys 7y ago
  There has definitely been plenty of fawning, I can confirm.

thorwasdfasdf 7y ago

It's not their fault. The disease hit New York first before it hit anywhere else in the US and hence had a lot of time to develop. I heard from one source, that it was already present in New York back in december and that one of the first worldwide cases came to New york early. that was from a Joe Rogan podcast episode.

rhizome 7y ago
We don't even know if "time to develop" in that way is even a thing in reality.
ashtonkem 7y ago
Given the close economic and cultural ties between the west coast and Asia, I find it very hard to believe that Coronavirus travelled through Europe to NYC before it travelled directly from China to LA or SF.