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Speak for yourself. I'm a bit more evolved than that sort of attitude.

by xiaoma 16y ago

scotty79 16y ago
I think feeling fit is about effortlessly dealing with physical things you usually have to deal with in your life. "My car broke. No problem. I'll just run 5 miles to work." situation does not occur very often.
- xiaoma 16y ago
  That's a ridiculous straw man. Yes, running will make running easier for you. That's great if you play sports. But sports aren't the only time people might get winded. It may be more common here in Asia where people aren't as reliant on cars but I, for example, have to about 20 minutes of walking and several flights of stairs involved in my daily commute. So do most of the other people I see in the subway. I've moved a fridge maybe once in my life and as for your other example... I haven't ever been involved with anyone that heavy. YMMV.
  - scotty79 16y ago
    Do you feel fit because you can effortlessly deal with few flights of stairs and 20 minute walk daily? How old are you? I go out of my house about once a week and I can do that. I don't think running 5km is necessary to achieve it since maximum distance I ran in my life was 1km and after that I was spitting my lungs for longer time than I actually ran.
    - xiaoma 16y ago
      Quite the opposite. I'm only in my 30's, but I no longer feel fit as I once was back when I could run a 33 minute 10k. Even long after leaving serious training behind and getting a bit heavier, I continued to go for a 3-4 hour run in the mountains every other week or so and did shorter runs at least a couple of times a week. As recently as two years ago, I had a resting pulse of 48 BPM. I lived at the top of a 6 floor apartment building. Unlike my guests, I was rarely winded at the top, even going up the stairs with a backpack. I even played pick-up games of basketball in the park after pub crawls with my buddies. It felt like my energy was boundless. My habits changed after moving to Beijing. The air here isn't so good, so I don't enjoy running anymore. Instead, I've been going to the gym and doing something very similar to what the article recommended, actually! I'm stronger than ever before, squatting about 170kg. I'm not fitter, though. I'm fatter. My resting pulse is up to 70 and while the subway is no problem, several flights of stairs are off-putting. A full-court game of basketball would probably make me feel ill.
      - scotty79 16y ago
        From your description I guess that you've been working out for mass not for strength. I can believe you feel unfit after that. Especially since you were lighter some time ago. I can totally relate to how air quality influences all outdoor sports.

Speak for yourself. I'm a bit more evolved than that sort of attitude.

by xiaoma 16y ago

Speak for yourself. I'm a bit more evolved than that sort of attitude.

I think feeling fit is about effortlessly dealing with physical things you usually have to deal with in your life. "My car broke. No problem. I'll just run 5 miles to work." situation does not occur very often.

xiaoma 16y ago
That's a ridiculous straw man. Yes, running will make running easier for you. That's great if you play sports. But sports aren't the only time people might get winded. It may be more common here in Asia where people aren't as reliant on cars but I, for example, have to about 20 minutes of walking and several flights of stairs involved in my daily commute. So do most of the other people I see in the subway. I've moved a fridge maybe once in my life and as for your other example... I haven't ever been involved with anyone that heavy. YMMV.
- scotty79 16y ago
  Do you feel fit because you can effortlessly deal with few flights of stairs and 20 minute walk daily? How old are you? I go out of my house about once a week and I can do that. I don't think running 5km is necessary to achieve it since maximum distance I ran in my life was 1km and after that I was spitting my lungs for longer time than I actually ran.
  - xiaoma 16y ago
    Quite the opposite. I'm only in my 30's, but I no longer feel fit as I once was back when I could run a 33 minute 10k. Even long after leaving serious training behind and getting a bit heavier, I continued to go for a 3-4 hour run in the mountains every other week or so and did shorter runs at least a couple of times a week. As recently as two years ago, I had a resting pulse of 48 BPM. I lived at the top of a 6 floor apartment building. Unlike my guests, I was rarely winded at the top, even going up the stairs with a backpack. I even played pick-up games of basketball in the park after pub crawls with my buddies. It felt like my energy was boundless. My habits changed after moving to Beijing. The air here isn't so good, so I don't enjoy running anymore. Instead, I've been going to the gym and doing something very similar to what the article recommended, actually! I'm stronger than ever before, squatting about 170kg. I'm not fitter, though. I'm fatter. My resting pulse is up to 70 and while the subway is no problem, several flights of stairs are off-putting. A full-court game of basketball would probably make me feel ill.
    - scotty79 16y ago
      From your description I guess that you've been working out for mass not for strength. I can believe you feel unfit after that. Especially since you were lighter some time ago. I can totally relate to how air quality influences all outdoor sports.