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>Oh, and statistically you make more money as well. But you're less comfortable on airplanes, and Asian minibuses, so it's impossible to know if it's a net bene

>Oh, and statistically you make more money as well. But you're less comfortable on airplanes, and Asian minibuses, so it's impossible to know if it's a net benefit or not... Don't forget shorter lifespans, back issues, discomfort in most vehicles, difficulty finding clothes furniture and bedding (unless you're well off) and instant contempt from any male shorter than 5'9".

ashwoods 6y ago
And washing the dishes is also uncomfortable and always get wet unless you squat all the time. :)
samatman 6y ago
I'm above the 95th percentile in male height, and have never experienced contempt from short men. Must be friendly. I'm also below the 99th percentile, which is where most of what you describe starts to kick in. Lucky me, I guess. I do have to put up with my knees pressing into the back of airplane seats...
- def8cefe 6y ago
  I'm 99th percentile, 6'6". If I had to pick a height it would be 6'4". There are certainly benefits, but most people ignore the drawbacks when discussing height. I like to put it in perspective for shorter men who feel unlucky as well. The argument about attraction makes no sense to me either. People reporting they like tall people also care about other traits. If you find a partner who fetishises you just for your height you really haven't gained anything, it's still just as hard to find actual love. Let's not even get into the advanced math required to find positions that work with an average sized partner.
  - samatman 6y ago
    Yeah, 6'4" is probably the sweet spot. I'm a bit short of glory there, but I'm not complaining. Fetishizing height might be more of an issue at your lofty stature, along with the thin air and whatnot. It's not what I'm talking about. Height is like facial symmetry, there aren't any downsides (talking about 90-98% here) and it just means more occasions when your crush crushes back. At the margins, this is a plus. Everyone makes up for their deficits by playing to their strengths. It's important to acknowledge which is which. Worth noting that sexual attraction isn't the only place this comes up, there's robust evidence that everyone, male, female, and otherwise, considers taller men to be more trustworthy(!), better leaders, and the list goes on. It's deeply unfair of course, but it is what it is.
  - TheOperator 6y ago
    > If you find a partner who fetishises you just for your height you really haven't gained anything, it's still just as hard to find actual love. Truly... it's similar to how a dashingly handsome hollywood heartthrob has no real advantages over somebody who looks like Quasimodo with smallpox. The former has to wonder if their beautiful successful wife decided to have the family he always wanted with him because she loves them or if they only did it because he's a sexual object. Whereas the latter may face personal and professional consequences for making the exact same advances the former would be rewarded for and thus is prone to self-isolation for fear of societal reprimand. He gets to live in a wonderful world of woke cynicism.

ashwoods 6y ago

And washing the dishes is also uncomfortable and always get wet unless you squat all the time. :)

samatman 6y ago

I'm above the 95th percentile in male height, and have never experienced contempt from short men. Must be friendly. I'm also below the 99th percentile, which is where most of what you describe starts to kick in. Lucky me, I guess. I do have to put up with my knees pressing into the back of airplane seats...

def8cefe 6y ago
I'm 99th percentile, 6'6". If I had to pick a height it would be 6'4". There are certainly benefits, but most people ignore the drawbacks when discussing height. I like to put it in perspective for shorter men who feel unlucky as well. The argument about attraction makes no sense to me either. People reporting they like tall people also care about other traits. If you find a partner who fetishises you just for your height you really haven't gained anything, it's still just as hard to find actual love. Let's not even get into the advanced math required to find positions that work with an average sized partner.
- samatman 6y ago
  Yeah, 6'4" is probably the sweet spot. I'm a bit short of glory there, but I'm not complaining. Fetishizing height might be more of an issue at your lofty stature, along with the thin air and whatnot. It's not what I'm talking about. Height is like facial symmetry, there aren't any downsides (talking about 90-98% here) and it just means more occasions when your crush crushes back. At the margins, this is a plus. Everyone makes up for their deficits by playing to their strengths. It's important to acknowledge which is which. Worth noting that sexual attraction isn't the only place this comes up, there's robust evidence that everyone, male, female, and otherwise, considers taller men to be more trustworthy(!), better leaders, and the list goes on. It's deeply unfair of course, but it is what it is.
- TheOperator 6y ago
  > If you find a partner who fetishises you just for your height you really haven't gained anything, it's still just as hard to find actual love. Truly... it's similar to how a dashingly handsome hollywood heartthrob has no real advantages over somebody who looks like Quasimodo with smallpox. The former has to wonder if their beautiful successful wife decided to have the family he always wanted with him because she loves them or if they only did it because he's a sexual object. Whereas the latter may face personal and professional consequences for making the exact same advances the former would be rewarded for and thus is prone to self-isolation for fear of societal reprimand. He gets to live in a wonderful world of woke cynicism.