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> In contrast, the regimen for Covid-19 _successfully_ used by Dr. Zev Zelenko on ~700 patients is: For all we know, it was a successful placebo. Anecdotal evi
by cycrutchfield 7y ago
> In contrast, the regimen for Covid-19 _successfully_ used by Dr. Zev Zelenko on ~700 patients is:
For all we know, it was a successful placebo. Anecdotal evidence does not constitute scientific fact.
- 12elephant 7y agoA single piece of anecdotal evidence does not constitute scientific fact. ~700 pieces of anecdotal evidence is a study.
- cycrutchfield 7y agoIf there's no randomly selected control group then the value of the results are fairly minimal.
- 12elephant 7y agoThe remaining population of COVID patients is a good control group. Or, if you prefer, randomly select sub-populations with similar demographic statistics.
- cycrutchfield 7y agoYeah sorry, I don’t think you understand how control groups work.
- 12elephant 7y agoYes, let's throw out valuable field evidence just because it doesn't fit some narrow definition of "valid experiment". Compare 700 people who received a treatment to 700 demographically similar people who received the standard treatment in the same or similar hospital and you're going to get a useful result. We can do your fancy RCT later when we aren't dying en masse from a novel and highly lethal virus.
- cycrutchfield 7y agoI mean, people have tried doing studies like that for CQ/HCQ. They are riddled with questionable assumptions (that patient groups are similar or treatment regimens are equivalent) that make their conclusions completely unreliable. In the end we will most likely find that all positive anecdotal evidence found was just confirmation bias. That's why RCTs are so important.
- cbxyp 7y agoThat's ridiculous https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
- cycrutchfield 7y agoIn vitro is not the same as in vivo