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Laid off != Fired

by llamataboot 7y ago

Laid off != Fired

Allvitende 7y ago
Hm. Yes, it actually does. It's just a nice way of putting it.
- ortusdux 7y ago
  https://www.thebalancecareers.com/difference-between-getting-fired-and-getting-laid-off-2060743 https://www.thebalancecareers.com/difference-between-getting...
- vsskanth 7y ago
  Fired - removed from your position "for cause" - can be performance, breaking company policy etc. Laid off - company's business situation has changed and does not require your services anymore - no fault of yours.
  - gambiting 7y ago
    I've literally never heard anyone make that distinction.
    - jjeaff 7y ago
      It's a pretty important distinction as it can decide whether you qualify for unemployment or not.
  - rhizome 7y ago
    My impression is that there is a legal issue in calling something a layoff, in that the position has to have been eliminated.
    - vsskanth 7y ago
      I believe you don't qualify for unemployment insurance if you are fired, as opposed to laid off.
      - rhizome 7y ago
        Yeah that's the basic difference, but I believe there's also something accounting-ish or tax-y about it, too.
- MattyMc 7y ago
  This is not accurate. Getting fired versus laid-off are different; it's important to understand this. For one, if you're communicating with a professional and express that you were fired, they will make much different assumptions than if you were laid-off. Second, the distinction can affect your eligibility for employment insurance (or 'unemployment').
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exolymph 7y ago
There's a distinction in HR. Colloquially, "fired" means "involuntary dismissal of any sort." Edit: To be clear, by colloquially I mean how people tend to use the word in practice.
sys_64738 7y ago
In either case you're here today but gone tomorrow. They're the same but the excuse is different.
- jjeaff 7y ago
  There is some difference. Fired with cause means no unemployment benefits. Laid off and you qualify to receive benefits.
Fred27 7y ago
Bear in mind that different countries have different interpretations. I'm guessing you're all arguing about a US view. In the UK, "fired" would mean that you lost your job because you did something seriously wrong.
- pwinnski 7y ago
  That is how I view it in the US as well. My fault? Fired. The company's fault (or "nobody's")? Laid off.

Laid off != Fired

Allvitende 7y ago

Hm. Yes, it actually does. It's just a nice way of putting it.

ortusdux 7y ago
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/difference-between-getting-fired-and-getting-laid-off-2060743 https://www.thebalancecareers.com/difference-between-getting...
vsskanth 7y ago
Fired - removed from your position "for cause" - can be performance, breaking company policy etc. Laid off - company's business situation has changed and does not require your services anymore - no fault of yours.
- gambiting 7y ago
  I've literally never heard anyone make that distinction.
  - jjeaff 7y ago
    It's a pretty important distinction as it can decide whether you qualify for unemployment or not.
- rhizome 7y ago
  My impression is that there is a legal issue in calling something a layoff, in that the position has to have been eliminated.
  - vsskanth 7y ago
    I believe you don't qualify for unemployment insurance if you are fired, as opposed to laid off.
    - rhizome 7y ago
      Yeah that's the basic difference, but I believe there's also something accounting-ish or tax-y about it, too.
MattyMc 7y ago
This is not accurate. Getting fired versus laid-off are different; it's important to understand this. For one, if you're communicating with a professional and express that you were fired, they will make much different assumptions than if you were laid-off. Second, the distinction can affect your eligibility for employment insurance (or 'unemployment').
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exolymph 7y ago

There's a distinction in HR. Colloquially, "fired" means "involuntary dismissal of any sort." Edit: To be clear, by colloquially I mean how people tend to use the word in practice.

sys_64738 7y ago

In either case you're here today but gone tomorrow. They're the same but the excuse is different.

jjeaff 7y ago
There is some difference. Fired with cause means no unemployment benefits. Laid off and you qualify to receive benefits.

Fred27 7y ago

Bear in mind that different countries have different interpretations. I'm guessing you're all arguing about a US view. In the UK, "fired" would mean that you lost your job because you did something seriously wrong.

pwinnski 7y ago
That is how I view it in the US as well. My fault? Fired. The company's fault (or "nobody's")? Laid off.