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I'd like to believe we will start mass manufacturing all promising candidates long before testing is complete. The stakes are so high this time that it's impor

I'd like to believe we will start mass manufacturing all promising candidates long before testing is complete. The stakes are so high this time that it's important _as soon as_ testing results are deemed adequate, they can start distributing them, even if it means manufacturing stuff that doesn't ultimately pan out.

bolasanibk 6y ago
Bill Gates thinks the same. https://www.wsj.com/articles/bill-gates-to-spend-billions-on-coronavirus-vaccine-development-11586124716 https://www.wsj.com/articles/bill-gates-to-spend-billions-on...
- pacomerh 6y ago
  (unrelated to this but related to Bill), why are there so many people hating on Bill Gates when he talks about this virus and any prospects etc.? It's not like he's a plain celebrity, I mean he's in philanthropy etc, he's known for helping people with these kinds of issues. Just boggles my mind
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - ardit33 6y ago
    Probably same people/crowd that sent death threats to Fauci... Unfortunately we live in a country where anywhere between 18% and 31% (depending on the question/pool) of the population doesn't believe in evolution at all. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/how-many-creationists-are-there-in-america/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/how-many-c...
  - djhaskin987 6y ago
    I haven't heard of anybody hating on Bill Gates lately. Do you have a link perhaps to show me some example of this because I don't know what you're talking about
    - jowsie 6y ago
      Checkout reddits r/conspiracy for a quick and condensed glimpse into the current insanity.
  - NicoJuicy 6y ago
    It's absolutely insane. There is a guy I know who thinks ID2020 is a secret plan of Bill Gates for giving everyone a chip and track everyone ( that's the conspiracy theory), based on some so called "Anon YouTube movies" Instead of believing that Gates already had the experience with Ebola, to foresee that the world is not ready for a global pandemic. His words literally were ( as a response): > Forget it. Nothing will change my mind, bro. It's absolutely nuts. Some of them also believe that 5G cause Corona and in chemtrails. There is literally no logic that can change their mind, lol. An article about the subject can be found here: https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news/2020/04/15/id2020-coronavirus-vaccine-misinformation https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news/2020/04/15/id2020-co...
  - corpMaverick 6y ago
    and this is not a new subject for him. He has been thinking about this for many years. Needless to say it, he is also extremely intelligent.
  - dntbnmpls 6y ago
    > why are there so many people hating on Bill Gates when he talks about this virus and any prospects etc.? Because Gates was what Zuckerburg is today. The real question is why are there so many Gates' supporters? > I mean he's in philanthropy etc Yes, following in Rockefeller's footsteps. "Philanthropy" is a PR move. Gates probably has the world's best PR team. > Just boggles my mind Probably because you don't come from a CS/tech background. In 20 or 30 years, zuckerburg is going to set up a family "charity" and the masses will worship him as a saint. Setting up "family controlled charities" is probably the most effective PR move amongst the uber-wealthy. Building hospitals is another one. Donating to schools is another. These people didn't grow a conscious when they retired, they just bought a world class PR team.
    - KarlKemp 6y ago
      He’s given $38 billion to his foundation so far, on track to eventually give close to $100 billion. What, exactly, is he getting in PR that’s possibly worth $38+ billion? He’s not even selling anything! And his foundation’s charter even specifies that the money needs to be spent within 30 or so years of his death, meaning he doesn’t get the sort of immortality Carnegie/Rockefeller/Ford/Lilly did.
      - dntbnmpls 6y ago
        > He’s given $38 billion to his foundation so far, on track to eventually give close to $100 billion. In other words, he gave himself the money via a tax protected vehicle? How noble. > What, exactly, is he getting in PR that’s possibly worth $38+ billion? He's not paying $38 billion. He still has it. That's the point. He's paying nothing for good press. Getting people to defend him for moving his money from one place to a tax protected sheltered and being praised for it. Kinda like how you are doing it. > And his foundation’s charter even specifies that the money needs to be spent within 30 or so years of his death, meaning he doesn’t get the sort of immortality Carnegie/Rockefeller/Ford/Lilly did. "Spent". You mean setting up other charities, scholarships, etc are set up.
folli 6y ago
You need to have some selection beforehand. There's not enough manufacturing capacity to go around.
- randomsearch 6y ago
  Worse: a WHO official (apologies to trump supporters) said that you can’t divert much capacity because that risks causing outbreaks of other diseases. So have to create a lot of new capacity.

bolasanibk 6y ago

Bill Gates thinks the same. https://www.wsj.com/articles/bill-gates-to-spend-billions-on-coronavirus-vaccine-development-11586124716 https://www.wsj.com/articles/bill-gates-to-spend-billions-on...

pacomerh 6y ago
(unrelated to this but related to Bill), why are there so many people hating on Bill Gates when he talks about this virus and any prospects etc.? It's not like he's a plain celebrity, I mean he's in philanthropy etc, he's known for helping people with these kinds of issues. Just boggles my mind
- deleted 6y ago
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- ardit33 6y ago
  Probably same people/crowd that sent death threats to Fauci... Unfortunately we live in a country where anywhere between 18% and 31% (depending on the question/pool) of the population doesn't believe in evolution at all. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/how-many-creationists-are-there-in-america/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/how-many-c...
- djhaskin987 6y ago
  I haven't heard of anybody hating on Bill Gates lately. Do you have a link perhaps to show me some example of this because I don't know what you're talking about
  - jowsie 6y ago
    Checkout reddits r/conspiracy for a quick and condensed glimpse into the current insanity.
- NicoJuicy 6y ago
  It's absolutely insane. There is a guy I know who thinks ID2020 is a secret plan of Bill Gates for giving everyone a chip and track everyone ( that's the conspiracy theory), based on some so called "Anon YouTube movies" Instead of believing that Gates already had the experience with Ebola, to foresee that the world is not ready for a global pandemic. His words literally were ( as a response): > Forget it. Nothing will change my mind, bro. It's absolutely nuts. Some of them also believe that 5G cause Corona and in chemtrails. There is literally no logic that can change their mind, lol. An article about the subject can be found here: https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news/2020/04/15/id2020-coronavirus-vaccine-misinformation https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news/2020/04/15/id2020-co...
- corpMaverick 6y ago
  and this is not a new subject for him. He has been thinking about this for many years. Needless to say it, he is also extremely intelligent.
- dntbnmpls 6y ago
  > why are there so many people hating on Bill Gates when he talks about this virus and any prospects etc.? Because Gates was what Zuckerburg is today. The real question is why are there so many Gates' supporters? > I mean he's in philanthropy etc Yes, following in Rockefeller's footsteps. "Philanthropy" is a PR move. Gates probably has the world's best PR team. > Just boggles my mind Probably because you don't come from a CS/tech background. In 20 or 30 years, zuckerburg is going to set up a family "charity" and the masses will worship him as a saint. Setting up "family controlled charities" is probably the most effective PR move amongst the uber-wealthy. Building hospitals is another one. Donating to schools is another. These people didn't grow a conscious when they retired, they just bought a world class PR team.
  - KarlKemp 6y ago
    He’s given $38 billion to his foundation so far, on track to eventually give close to $100 billion. What, exactly, is he getting in PR that’s possibly worth $38+ billion? He’s not even selling anything! And his foundation’s charter even specifies that the money needs to be spent within 30 or so years of his death, meaning he doesn’t get the sort of immortality Carnegie/Rockefeller/Ford/Lilly did.
    - dntbnmpls 6y ago
      > He’s given $38 billion to his foundation so far, on track to eventually give close to $100 billion. In other words, he gave himself the money via a tax protected vehicle? How noble. > What, exactly, is he getting in PR that’s possibly worth $38+ billion? He's not paying $38 billion. He still has it. That's the point. He's paying nothing for good press. Getting people to defend him for moving his money from one place to a tax protected sheltered and being praised for it. Kinda like how you are doing it. > And his foundation’s charter even specifies that the money needs to be spent within 30 or so years of his death, meaning he doesn’t get the sort of immortality Carnegie/Rockefeller/Ford/Lilly did. "Spent". You mean setting up other charities, scholarships, etc are set up.

folli 6y ago

You need to have some selection beforehand. There's not enough manufacturing capacity to go around.

randomsearch 6y ago
Worse: a WHO official (apologies to trump supporters) said that you can’t divert much capacity because that risks causing outbreaks of other diseases. So have to create a lot of new capacity.