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I don't know if we can count on the ACA staying around forever.

Retric 7y ago
It survived both political parties in power. It might get chipped away over the next 30 years or replaced with public option etc, but bringing back the preexisting condition issue would be extremely unpopular. Also, it does not actually cost insurance companies much money as they can all just raise premiums.
- Agathos 7y ago
  So you're confident that the Supreme Court will overturn the 5th Circuit's decision to throw it out? The Supreme Court will be hearing the case this autumn. And you must be confident that Trump will lose, since the 5-4 majority that saved Obamacare last time will not survive a few more Republican appointments.
  - Retric 7y ago
    In terms of appointments, republicans have had control of the Supreme Court for years. In terms of the actual judges and their rulings that’s anybody’s guess. They could easily remove the tax while keeping the rest of the law unchanged or do just about anything.
    - Agathos 7y ago
      I don't really know what to make of "republicans have had control of the Supreme Court for years." Overturning Obamacare was their number one priority during the Obama administration. The Supreme Court chose not to. The five justices who chose not to are still seated. Some control.
      - Retric 7y ago
        Scalia and Kennedy where both republican appointments and replaced with Republican appointments. So if you’re saying they have 5-4 control now they also had 5-4 control then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_justices_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_justices_of_the_Suprem... That said, many justices have not voted as expected. In other cases political parties have swapped positions on various issues etc.
  - masonic 7y ago
    the 5-4 majority that saved Obamacare last time will not survive a few more Republican appointments You seem unaware that Chief Justice Roberts authored the opinion upholding ACA.
    - Agathos 7y ago
      So what? The Chief Justice can write the minority opinion next time. That 5-seat majority includes some who will almost certainly retire in the next four years.

It survived both political parties in power. It might get chipped away over the next 30 years or replaced with public option etc, but bringing back the preexisting condition issue would be extremely unpopular. Also, it does not actually cost insurance companies much money as they can all just raise premiums.

Agathos 7y ago
So you're confident that the Supreme Court will overturn the 5th Circuit's decision to throw it out? The Supreme Court will be hearing the case this autumn. And you must be confident that Trump will lose, since the 5-4 majority that saved Obamacare last time will not survive a few more Republican appointments.
- Retric 7y ago
  In terms of appointments, republicans have had control of the Supreme Court for years. In terms of the actual judges and their rulings that’s anybody’s guess. They could easily remove the tax while keeping the rest of the law unchanged or do just about anything.
  - Agathos 7y ago
    I don't really know what to make of "republicans have had control of the Supreme Court for years." Overturning Obamacare was their number one priority during the Obama administration. The Supreme Court chose not to. The five justices who chose not to are still seated. Some control.
    - Retric 7y ago
      Scalia and Kennedy where both republican appointments and replaced with Republican appointments. So if you’re saying they have 5-4 control now they also had 5-4 control then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_justices_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_justices_of_the_Suprem... That said, many justices have not voted as expected. In other cases political parties have swapped positions on various issues etc.
- masonic 7y ago
  the 5-4 majority that saved Obamacare last time will not survive a few more Republican appointments You seem unaware that Chief Justice Roberts authored the opinion upholding ACA.
  - Agathos 7y ago
    So what? The Chief Justice can write the minority opinion next time. That 5-seat majority includes some who will almost certainly retire in the next four years.