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Given that I need hydroxychloroquine to treat my rheumatoid arthritis, I'd like this hypothesis to be either proven or disproven as rapidly and as unambiguously
by w_t_payne 7y ago
Given that I need hydroxychloroquine to treat my rheumatoid arthritis, I'd like this hypothesis to be either proven or disproven as rapidly and as unambiguously as possible.
- AlexandrB 7y agoBecause HCQ’s efficacy was briefly endorsed by a controversial political figure I fear that there’s no evidence in either direction will convince the true believers. This is now a political issue, like global warming. Hopefully someone is ramping up production so availability improves for those that actually need it.
- loopz 7y agoThe science providing data is apolitical. It just takes its due time.
- munk-a 7y agoYup - and said controversial political figure jumped on the guess before the science was in and heavily endorsed it - this is likely leading to widespread misuse of a drug which is know to cause extreme damage to organs including kidneys, livers and eyes when misdosed and taken in excess.
- AlexandrB 7y agoThe science may be apolitical, but the choice to accept or reject the science can depend on your politics. I think the anti-vaccination movement has shown that no amount of evidence is sufficient if someone is strongly attached to a belief for ideological reasons.
- loopz 7y agoThat is why science is not leadership.
- t-writescode 7y agoThe amount of time it takes is where concerns are. It can take years or decades or centuries for science's evidence to have political impact.
- jsight 7y agoImagine if Obama had "endorsed" Biden using the same language. Would you have considered it an endorsement? I find the interpretation of what he said to be very peculiar.
- mcguire 7y agoI'm not at all sure I would like millions of doses of Joe Biden to be placed in the federal stockpile of emergency medical supplies, even if those doses were for the sole use of the federal government. It sounds kind of expensive and I don't think anyone knows what the effect of Joe on the coronavirus actually is.
- jsight 7y agoThey will do that with vaccines before they are approved as well as a preparatory step. They likely will do it with more than one vaccine formulation, even if only one is ultimately approved. Stockpiling isn't an endorsement.
- CydeWeys 7y agoWhat is the comparison being made here? Endorsing the frontrunner for political candidacy isn't remotely the same as endorsing an unproven drug to treat an ongoing pandemic.
- jsight 7y agoNoone endorsed an unproven drug.
- ModernMech 7y agohttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1241367239900778501 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12413672399007785... HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents).........be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE! @US_FDA @SteveFDA @CDCgov @DHSgov That's not an endorsement?
- kazinator 7y agoYou want it disproven, otherwise you won't be able to get your hands on hydroxychloroquine.
- programmarchy 7y agoWhy couldn't we just manufacture more?
- mikepurvis 7y agoThat's happening regardless, but yeah: https://www.google.com/search?q=hydroxychloroquine+manufacture&tbm=nws https://www.google.com/search?q=hydroxychloroquine+manufactu...
- tptacek 7y agoThat's kind of a ghoulish sentiment to attribute to someone else.
- kazinator 7y agoI don't believe that the sentence pattern which I used attributes sentiments to others. "You want ..." functions as as rhetorical idiom. "You want X or else Y" roughly means "Unless X, Y, thus you will be objectively disadvantaged". The sentiment, if there is one, remains mine; on the other hand, this "ghoulish" is in fact an external interpretation of sentiment being ascribed to me.
- tptacek 7y agoI don't know you enough to call you "ghoulish" and wouldn't be inclined to, but the sentiment itself hopes that a treatment for an illness killing tens of thousands of people per week will fail in order to secure supplies for a chronic but nonfatal ailment. I feel like the absolute morality of that sentiment is something we can actually evaluate. (It's all hypothetical, of course, because in fact HCQ does not appear to be effective for C19).
- munk-a 7y agoMy wife is feeling the same anxiety - she'd usually get 90 day fills at the pharmacy and they've scaled it back to 30 day fills... which is great because folks with autoimmune diseases really should be going to the pharmacy more often.
- tim333 7y agoOr maybe a sufficient supply to cover all demand. I'm not sure it's terribly hard to make. Novartis has committed to donate up to 130 million doses which should cover a fair bit.