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I've spent about $600 on various Bluetooth headphones and nothing beats the simple plug and play of a half decent $50 corded set. Add to that the fact that ful

I've spent about $600 on various Bluetooth headphones and nothing beats the simple plug and play of a half decent $50 corded set. Add to that the fact that fully cordless earbuds are beyond ergonomic failure. At least corded can hang around your neck. Bud's one has to pop in and out, hold, put in your pocket. The idea of continuing conversations even if they have passthrough is very rude

nogabebop23 7y ago
When I'm sweating at the gym or out in the rain the last thing I want is expensive headphones, earbuds or especially over the year. I'm likely not listening to (nor in an environment promoting) the highest fidelty music. I want a pair of < $20 ear buds that when grubby or stop working are easily replaced. Blue tooth may work 98% of the time but the old 3.5mm audio is 100%
- mgkimsal 7y ago
  I sleep with wired earbuds and white noise. They're $5 cheapos because they break every couple of months or so. and yeah, when working out, I have another set of cheaper earbuds, wired. Wireless might be nice for workouts, but when I tried it, I just kept having to remember to charge them - yet another 'thing to charge' that I didn't want to bother with.
- jniedrauer 7y ago
  Counterpoint: I got really sick of the cable constantly yanking on my ears, so I got some Jabra Elite Active 65ts and I've used them for thousands of miles of running since then. The sound quality is great, they're comfortable (I never even notice them once I put them in), the case charges them so I don't need to remember, and they keep running like a champ in the rain. I couldn't go back to using wired earbuds for running at this point.
  - the_pwner224 7y ago
    With a jack you have the choice. I recently got Bluetooth headphones for exactly the same reason as you, but continue to use them wired with my computer because it's just better. Bluetooth works almost all the time, but not 100%.
eugeniub 7y ago
To me, no headphone/earphone experience has ever been better than my AirPods. I have both the normal and Pro versions. They fit magnificently. No cable means nothing ever pulls on my ears, which over time can be painful and irritating. I can listen in bed on my back, on my sides, etc. It's not a big deal to take them out and just stick them in a pocket. And I know people complain about how easy they are to lose, but anecdotally, I have lost wired bluetooth earbuds in the past, but never lost an AirPod since I've gotten my first pair in early 2017.
- easytiger 7y ago
  > It's not a big deal to take them out and just stick them in a pocket. Personally I can't agree. I've found they are a nightmare. Walk into a coffee shop, take them out to order. Have to take each out, at significant risk of dropping or fumbling. Back in pocket or held in hand. You then have a bag to carry, them. Wired Bluetooth would just drape easily around the neck whilst one conducts business. I know few airpod users who have not lost one or dropped one on the street > have lost wired bluetooth earbuds in the past, but never lost an AirPod since I've gotten my first pair in early 2017. There is sadly little value in this statement
ubercow13 7y ago
I never thought they could be good, but I now have Sony’s latest ones and the sound itself is genuinely better than any corded ones I’ve had over the years, up to over £100 and always carefully chosen. So I now believe it’s possible to make them good, though they are still expensive. Comparing them negatively ergonomically to cabled earbuds is of course crazy :)
- easytiger 7y ago
  > Comparing them negatively ergonomically to cabled earbuds is of course crazy :) Why?

nogabebop23 7y ago

When I'm sweating at the gym or out in the rain the last thing I want is expensive headphones, earbuds or especially over the year. I'm likely not listening to (nor in an environment promoting) the highest fidelty music. I want a pair of < $20 ear buds that when grubby or stop working are easily replaced. Blue tooth may work 98% of the time but the old 3.5mm audio is 100%

mgkimsal 7y ago
I sleep with wired earbuds and white noise. They're $5 cheapos because they break every couple of months or so. and yeah, when working out, I have another set of cheaper earbuds, wired. Wireless might be nice for workouts, but when I tried it, I just kept having to remember to charge them - yet another 'thing to charge' that I didn't want to bother with.
jniedrauer 7y ago
Counterpoint: I got really sick of the cable constantly yanking on my ears, so I got some Jabra Elite Active 65ts and I've used them for thousands of miles of running since then. The sound quality is great, they're comfortable (I never even notice them once I put them in), the case charges them so I don't need to remember, and they keep running like a champ in the rain. I couldn't go back to using wired earbuds for running at this point.
- the_pwner224 7y ago
  With a jack you have the choice. I recently got Bluetooth headphones for exactly the same reason as you, but continue to use them wired with my computer because it's just better. Bluetooth works almost all the time, but not 100%.

eugeniub 7y ago

To me, no headphone/earphone experience has ever been better than my AirPods. I have both the normal and Pro versions. They fit magnificently. No cable means nothing ever pulls on my ears, which over time can be painful and irritating. I can listen in bed on my back, on my sides, etc. It's not a big deal to take them out and just stick them in a pocket. And I know people complain about how easy they are to lose, but anecdotally, I have lost wired bluetooth earbuds in the past, but never lost an AirPod since I've gotten my first pair in early 2017.

easytiger 7y ago
> It's not a big deal to take them out and just stick them in a pocket. Personally I can't agree. I've found they are a nightmare. Walk into a coffee shop, take them out to order. Have to take each out, at significant risk of dropping or fumbling. Back in pocket or held in hand. You then have a bag to carry, them. Wired Bluetooth would just drape easily around the neck whilst one conducts business. I know few airpod users who have not lost one or dropped one on the street > have lost wired bluetooth earbuds in the past, but never lost an AirPod since I've gotten my first pair in early 2017. There is sadly little value in this statement

ubercow13 7y ago

I never thought they could be good, but I now have Sony’s latest ones and the sound itself is genuinely better than any corded ones I’ve had over the years, up to over £100 and always carefully chosen. So I now believe it’s possible to make them good, though they are still expensive. Comparing them negatively ergonomically to cabled earbuds is of course crazy :)

easytiger 7y ago
> Comparing them negatively ergonomically to cabled earbuds is of course crazy :) Why?