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It isn't about the screen size - it's about the external dimensions. This is almost as large as the Pixel 4A, Samsung S10e or iPhone 11. You are only saving a c

It isn't about the screen size - it's about the external dimensions. This is almost as large as the Pixel 4A, Samsung S10e or iPhone 11. You are only saving a couple grams and a few mm. Hopefully the Sony Xperia 5 II comes out soon - it should be smaller than this.

coldpie 7y ago
Yes, I agree, this iPhone SE is too large. But it's at least a step in the right direction compared to where we've been heading.
- scarface74 7y ago
  I keep seeing this. I’m below average height and I only have use of one hand so I know I never use my phone with both hands. Between the single handed keyboard mode and double clicking on the home button to bring the screen down, I have no trouble using the 8 Plus with one hand.
  - dijit 7y ago
    You’re totally right! Everyone here is just making things up! Egregious sarcasm aside: I owned the 6s after the 5s and it was too large to use comfortably, I kept dropping it, it meant that I had to _only_ use the phone when I wanted to check something- maybe I could get away with just a glance but a quick reply required far too much time unless I used two hands. So I got a Samsung Galaxy S8 which felt superb in the hand, but was still wayyyy too big, and it saw the pavement in a similar way; I got rid of it because Samsung’s Android is horrible and on the S8 it wasn’t removable and went back to the old form factor SE. I haven’t dropped this phone once, it’s comfy, it’s light- easy to carry around and very easy to use in one hand while I wait and sip a drink or something. Anecdote: my girlfriend has an iPhone X and due to the size of the thing she leaves it hanging around the apartment and has to go searching for it each time she wants to use it. It’s simply too uncomfortable to keep in her pocket.
mceachen 7y ago
> almost as large as ... iPhone 11 See https://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/ for a comparison. It's at least a quarter smaller in both dimensions.
- wishinghand 7y ago
  That image they include is disingenuous since the left sides of the two phones aren't aligned.
  - mceachen 7y ago
    Good catch, I missed that.
  - dkonofalski 7y ago
    Does that really make that big of a difference? You can still tell the difference...
    - wishinghand 7y ago
      It does perceptually, not intellectually. Obviously anyone can see that it's offset, but the perception is still smaller than it actually is. There's no easy marker to re-align and try to make a better estimate. Let's take a step back though- why are the phones in this image offset at all? Apple made the image, it's explicitly for a size comparison, so why make it harder to comprehend?
- akvadrako 7y ago
  You're right – the iPhone 11 is larger than I understood. I haven't bought a phone since the SE so my Apple info is a little rusty. But for the other phones I mentioned, it's quite similar. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9537&idPhone2=10123&idPhone3=10170 https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9537&idPhone2...
anon777778 7y ago
Exactly this. I compared it to Samsung S10e and in terms of size new iPhone SE and Samsung S10e are really close: (HxWxD in mm) S10e: 142.2 x 69.9 x 7.9; mass 150g; screen 5.8" SE: 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3; mass 148g; screen 4.7"
- ehsankia 7y ago
  Yep, the thing is, this phone has a huuuge forehead and chin which is comparable to from 5 years ago. Even if you don't want notches and pinholes, you can still have much thinner bezels without actually changing the body size. Look at this photo of Pixel 1 vs Pixel 2. They are both the same body size: https://i.imgur.com/VVqVt2x.png https://i.imgur.com/VVqVt2x.png
rattray 7y ago
Does Sony Xperia have a good track record of shipping stock android and releasing updates quickly? (I haven't checked).
- skizziepop 7y ago
  usually very close to stock, fast monthly security updates but slower on full version number bumps

coldpie 7y ago

Yes, I agree, this iPhone SE is too large. But it's at least a step in the right direction compared to where we've been heading.

scarface74 7y ago
I keep seeing this. I’m below average height and I only have use of one hand so I know I never use my phone with both hands. Between the single handed keyboard mode and double clicking on the home button to bring the screen down, I have no trouble using the 8 Plus with one hand.
- dijit 7y ago
  You’re totally right! Everyone here is just making things up! Egregious sarcasm aside: I owned the 6s after the 5s and it was too large to use comfortably, I kept dropping it, it meant that I had to _only_ use the phone when I wanted to check something- maybe I could get away with just a glance but a quick reply required far too much time unless I used two hands. So I got a Samsung Galaxy S8 which felt superb in the hand, but was still wayyyy too big, and it saw the pavement in a similar way; I got rid of it because Samsung’s Android is horrible and on the S8 it wasn’t removable and went back to the old form factor SE. I haven’t dropped this phone once, it’s comfy, it’s light- easy to carry around and very easy to use in one hand while I wait and sip a drink or something. Anecdote: my girlfriend has an iPhone X and due to the size of the thing she leaves it hanging around the apartment and has to go searching for it each time she wants to use it. It’s simply too uncomfortable to keep in her pocket.

mceachen 7y ago

> almost as large as ... iPhone 11 See https://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/ for a comparison. It's at least a quarter smaller in both dimensions.

wishinghand 7y ago
That image they include is disingenuous since the left sides of the two phones aren't aligned.
- mceachen 7y ago
  Good catch, I missed that.
- dkonofalski 7y ago
  Does that really make that big of a difference? You can still tell the difference...
  - wishinghand 7y ago
    It does perceptually, not intellectually. Obviously anyone can see that it's offset, but the perception is still smaller than it actually is. There's no easy marker to re-align and try to make a better estimate. Let's take a step back though- why are the phones in this image offset at all? Apple made the image, it's explicitly for a size comparison, so why make it harder to comprehend?
akvadrako 7y ago
You're right – the iPhone 11 is larger than I understood. I haven't bought a phone since the SE so my Apple info is a little rusty. But for the other phones I mentioned, it's quite similar. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9537&idPhone2=10123&idPhone3=10170 https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9537&idPhone2...

anon777778 7y ago

Exactly this. I compared it to Samsung S10e and in terms of size new iPhone SE and Samsung S10e are really close: (HxWxD in mm) S10e: 142.2 x 69.9 x 7.9; mass 150g; screen 5.8" SE: 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3; mass 148g; screen 4.7"

ehsankia 7y ago
Yep, the thing is, this phone has a huuuge forehead and chin which is comparable to from 5 years ago. Even if you don't want notches and pinholes, you can still have much thinner bezels without actually changing the body size. Look at this photo of Pixel 1 vs Pixel 2. They are both the same body size: https://i.imgur.com/VVqVt2x.png https://i.imgur.com/VVqVt2x.png

rattray 7y ago

Does Sony Xperia have a good track record of shipping stock android and releasing updates quickly? (I haven't checked).

skizziepop 7y ago
usually very close to stock, fast monthly security updates but slower on full version number bumps