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Bad statistic. School has been either cancelled or online. It's be like saying "No electrocutions" in the 1700s or no "social media anything's in the 1800s".

tylermac1 7y ago
School wasn't cancelled nationwide in early March. My area didn't cancel school until March 15th.
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asdflksdmfskd 7y ago
That's not what it's saying. The headline is suggesting it's notable that there has been a school shooting each March since 2003.
- crankylinuxuser 7y ago
  What's more interesting is how starkly negative and hypocritical HN is. Yes, children are murdering other children with guns in school. If that mattered, we collectively would have done something to stop that. Politically, it didn't matter. Children were acceptable casualties for 'muricans' to have guns. And politically, it's a pointless battle be it online -or- in person. HN certainly makes a point in not doing flamewars.. not much more flames can be stoked than with a gun debate with US politics (well, abortion). So, I looked at their "statistic", in a dry scientific manner. Of course there's no gun violence at schools. They're cancelled or online.
havenbarnes 7y ago
Pretty sure that’s the main point of the article. It took a global pandemic for us to not have a shooting
- longtom 7y ago
  Maybe not the weapons are the problem, but the lack of the right motivation.
  - mcphage 7y ago
    Maybe it's a combination of the two: the weapons, with the right motivation.
ravenstine 7y ago
It's a statistic, but not terribly useful. I wouldn't consider ongoing pandemic lockdowns as some sort of solution for what comes down to a cultural problem. Incidentally, we made the problem go away artificially, but that doesn't mean that we really know anything as a result besides that school shootings don't happen when there's no school to shoot up.
stabbles 7y ago
The point of the article is to explain the happy statistical exception
gdulli 7y ago
Right. The takeaway isn't that it's a victory for gun control. It's that under the status quo, it takes an absence of school attendance for there to be an absence of shootings.
Davidzheng 7y ago
I also think this is a stupid statistic, who the hell is counting the first March since blah year?
HBKXNCUO 7y ago
That may have reduced the likelihood, but closing them down would not prevent incidents from showing up in this list. For instance, check https://www.schoolsecurity.org/trends/violent-deaths-and-school-shootings/school-deaths-2004-2005/ https://www.schoolsecurity.org/trends/violent-deaths-and-sch... >March 16, 2005: Covington, KY >A man was shot to death and two people were wounded in an altercation about 40 yards from an elementary school. The school went into a lockdown. The incident did not involve individuals associated with the school, but a teacher at the school had heard the shots and the school was locked down to protect students and staff. The shooting only needs to take place near the school to make it on the list, and by the way this was the only gun-related injury in March on that list.

tylermac1 7y ago

School wasn't cancelled nationwide in early March. My area didn't cancel school until March 15th.

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asdflksdmfskd 7y ago

That's not what it's saying. The headline is suggesting it's notable that there has been a school shooting each March since 2003.

crankylinuxuser 7y ago
What's more interesting is how starkly negative and hypocritical HN is. Yes, children are murdering other children with guns in school. If that mattered, we collectively would have done something to stop that. Politically, it didn't matter. Children were acceptable casualties for 'muricans' to have guns. And politically, it's a pointless battle be it online -or- in person. HN certainly makes a point in not doing flamewars.. not much more flames can be stoked than with a gun debate with US politics (well, abortion). So, I looked at their "statistic", in a dry scientific manner. Of course there's no gun violence at schools. They're cancelled or online.

havenbarnes 7y ago

Pretty sure that’s the main point of the article. It took a global pandemic for us to not have a shooting

longtom 7y ago
Maybe not the weapons are the problem, but the lack of the right motivation.
- mcphage 7y ago
  Maybe it's a combination of the two: the weapons, with the right motivation.

ravenstine 7y ago

It's a statistic, but not terribly useful. I wouldn't consider ongoing pandemic lockdowns as some sort of solution for what comes down to a cultural problem. Incidentally, we made the problem go away artificially, but that doesn't mean that we really know anything as a result besides that school shootings don't happen when there's no school to shoot up.

stabbles 7y ago

The point of the article is to explain the happy statistical exception

gdulli 7y ago

Right. The takeaway isn't that it's a victory for gun control. It's that under the status quo, it takes an absence of school attendance for there to be an absence of shootings.

Davidzheng 7y ago

I also think this is a stupid statistic, who the hell is counting the first March since blah year?

HBKXNCUO 7y ago

That may have reduced the likelihood, but closing them down would not prevent incidents from showing up in this list. For instance, check https://www.schoolsecurity.org/trends/violent-deaths-and-school-shootings/school-deaths-2004-2005/ https://www.schoolsecurity.org/trends/violent-deaths-and-sch... >March 16, 2005: Covington, KY >A man was shot to death and two people were wounded in an altercation about 40 yards from an elementary school. The school went into a lockdown. The incident did not involve individuals associated with the school, but a teacher at the school had heard the shots and the school was locked down to protect students and staff. The shooting only needs to take place near the school to make it on the list, and by the way this was the only gun-related injury in March on that list.