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I left (mostly) when tech became a tool for greed and scummery. Was asked too many times to participate in completely legal yet morally abhorrent actions. A

by Jemm 7y ago

I left (mostly) when tech became a tool for greed and scummery. Was asked too many times to participate in completely legal yet morally abhorrent actions. Also saw that programmers were starting to be treated like factory workers where attendance and metrics like keystrokes per minute were more important than good well written and documented code. The final straw however was "move fast and break things". Basically pump out change for the sake of change and let the end user do quality control. One could argue that app stores have also played a significant role, basically taking thirty percent gross while depriving the developer of direct contact with the end user. Bottom line, I’d rather be sailing.

mihaaly 7y ago
> pump out change for the sake of change and let the end user do quality control So true! Saying both as developer and user!
president 7y ago
> The final straw however was "move fast and break things". Basically pump out change for the sake of change and let the end user do quality control. The worst part is how this leads to more on-call and an increase in working off-hours.
- Viliam1234 7y ago
  Oh, exactly this! First I get lectured about how delivering a solution fast is more important than getting the technical details right... and then I get assigned for on-call duty. Because "move fast" means someone else gets a bonus, and "break things" means I have to fix the bugs over the weekend.
  - president 7y ago
    > Because "move fast" means someone else gets a bonus, and "break things" means I have to fix the bugs over the weekend. This is a great quote, I'm going to steal this from you!
freedomben 7y ago
> Also saw that programmers were starting to be treated like factory workers where attendance and metrics like keystrokes per minute were more important than good well written and documented code. This is why I quit being a software engineer as well (I didn't leave the tech industry altogether tho, just switched career trajectories a bit). I spent years trying to talk some sense into the people pushing that and trying to explain (it's as much art as science) but in the end the Scrum people won. So, I moved over to devops and consulting where most of the time I'm helping people with stuff, and the long death-march sprints to satisfy an arbitrarily deadline that nobody cared about until it got put on paper two weeks ago, and still doesn't matter except it will turn some spreadsheet field red that draws the Eye of Sauron from higher ups, are mostly over now. I get my coding fix by working on open source projects, and it's way more fulfilling.

by Jemm 7y ago

mihaaly 7y ago

> pump out change for the sake of change and let the end user do quality control So true! Saying both as developer and user!

president 7y ago

> The final straw however was "move fast and break things". Basically pump out change for the sake of change and let the end user do quality control. The worst part is how this leads to more on-call and an increase in working off-hours.

Viliam1234 7y ago
Oh, exactly this! First I get lectured about how delivering a solution fast is more important than getting the technical details right... and then I get assigned for on-call duty. Because "move fast" means someone else gets a bonus, and "break things" means I have to fix the bugs over the weekend.
- president 7y ago
  > Because "move fast" means someone else gets a bonus, and "break things" means I have to fix the bugs over the weekend. This is a great quote, I'm going to steal this from you!

freedomben 7y ago

> Also saw that programmers were starting to be treated like factory workers where attendance and metrics like keystrokes per minute were more important than good well written and documented code. This is why I quit being a software engineer as well (I didn't leave the tech industry altogether tho, just switched career trajectories a bit). I spent years trying to talk some sense into the people pushing that and trying to explain (it's as much art as science) but in the end the Scrum people won. So, I moved over to devops and consulting where most of the time I'm helping people with stuff, and the long death-march sprints to satisfy an arbitrarily deadline that nobody cared about until it got put on paper two weeks ago, and still doesn't matter except it will turn some spreadsheet field red that draws the Eye of Sauron from higher ups, are mostly over now. I get my coding fix by working on open source projects, and it's way more fulfilling.