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This is nice, I guess, but I'm still not sure how this has any benefit for anybody except that demoscene now shares a list on Wikipedia with some folk dances an

This is nice, I guess, but I'm still not sure how this has any benefit for anybody except that demoscene now shares a list on Wikipedia with some folk dances and knitting patterns. I think it's much more newsworthy that the Revision Demoparty happened last weekend despite the corona pandemic. It was fully online but still a 72-hour non stop event. Many of the releases are mind-blowing, check https://pouet.net https://pouet.net

TekMol 7y ago
Looked up the winner in the 64k competition and it seems to be this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tirAdWbceak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tirAdWbceak To be honest, it looks like a techno video from the 90s to me.
- WillKirkby 7y ago
  The 64k compo was particularly weak this year. I'd recommend checking out the 4k intro and 4k executable graphics compos for some stellar work.
  - Sharlin 7y ago
    I think Assembly eliminated 64k years ago, because 4k for all practical purposes had become the new 64k, and 64k entries had been scarce and not super impressive for a while.
    - GuB-42 7y ago
      Things come and go. At Revision 2015 to 2017, the PC 64k compo was absolutely insane, with production values exceeding pretty much every other category, including unconstrained PC demos. If 4k is the new 64k, 64k at that time became the new PC demo. 256 bytes is the big (hum...) thing now. With one ridiculous entry that managed to pack 8 different effects, with music and transitions https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85227 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85227
    - duskwuff 7y ago
      The 4k category was blown wide open in 2009 by rgba/tbc with Elevated [1] (live reactions: [2]). It demonstrated that 4k was more than sufficient for impressive effects and music -- suddenly, 64k was no longer an interesting constraint. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0vBmiTr6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0vBmiTr6o [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro5grR_efG0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro5grR_efG0
    - floatboth 7y ago
      Last year's PC 64k was amazing https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=81021 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=81021 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=81015 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=81015 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=80996 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=80996
  - bane 7y ago
    There's a mind-blowing 256byte entry as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imquk_3oFf4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imquk_3oFf4
    - sharken 7y ago
      The awesome commented code can be found in this Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fzzs4u/memories_256_byte_msdos_intro_commented_code/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fzzs4u/memorie...
- deleted 7y ago
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- skrebbel 7y ago
  I'd like to submit a small correction: the PC 64k winner. Eg there's this in the Amiga 64k compo: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85248 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85248 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s66OgcwqalA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s66OgcwqalA) It also looks like a techno video, but a good one :-)
bane 7y ago
More specifically, this is the compo results. https://www.pouet.net/party.php?which=1550&when=2020 https://www.pouet.net/party.php?which=1550&when=2020
- yread 7y ago
  Cool stuff. But why aren't there more videos? Even if I wanted to download and run random executables Vivaldi (and probably Symantec, too) blocks the download.
  - skrebbel 7y ago
    The party is just over. Give it a week and many more prods will have youtube links. Capturing a demo properly for youtube is non-trivial (especially on other platforms than PC), and a couple of people have specialized in this. Expect a whole bunch of uploads soon enough.
  - bane 7y ago
    The twitch stream from the party is archived here for now https://www.twitch.tv/revisionparty https://www.twitch.tv/revisionparty
rapsey 7y ago
Lots of game developers and companies have their origins in the demo scene
pnako 7y ago
They were even able to run the Shader Showdown competition online! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRD1gCX7fk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRD1gCX7fk For people who don't know what it is: it's a live coding competition where 2 competitors have 25 minutes to code a graphical effect (using shader language) in front of a live audience They use a tool called Bonzomatic which you can get for various platforms.
lmm 7y ago
It's official recognition that makes it easier to justify activities that preserve this heritage. Schoolteachers have an argument for spending time on it. Museums have an argument for including it. At the micro level it might become easier to use a community hall or similar space for a demoscene event. It's not going to be a day-and-night change. But it can make a lot of small things go better.

TekMol 7y ago

Looked up the winner in the 64k competition and it seems to be this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tirAdWbceak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tirAdWbceak To be honest, it looks like a techno video from the 90s to me.

WillKirkby 7y ago
The 64k compo was particularly weak this year. I'd recommend checking out the 4k intro and 4k executable graphics compos for some stellar work.
- Sharlin 7y ago
  I think Assembly eliminated 64k years ago, because 4k for all practical purposes had become the new 64k, and 64k entries had been scarce and not super impressive for a while.
  - GuB-42 7y ago
    Things come and go. At Revision 2015 to 2017, the PC 64k compo was absolutely insane, with production values exceeding pretty much every other category, including unconstrained PC demos. If 4k is the new 64k, 64k at that time became the new PC demo. 256 bytes is the big (hum...) thing now. With one ridiculous entry that managed to pack 8 different effects, with music and transitions https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85227 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85227
  - duskwuff 7y ago
    The 4k category was blown wide open in 2009 by rgba/tbc with Elevated [1] (live reactions: [2]). It demonstrated that 4k was more than sufficient for impressive effects and music -- suddenly, 64k was no longer an interesting constraint. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0vBmiTr6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0vBmiTr6o [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro5grR_efG0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro5grR_efG0
  - floatboth 7y ago
    Last year's PC 64k was amazing https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=81021 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=81021 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=81015 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=81015 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=80996 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=80996
- bane 7y ago
  There's a mind-blowing 256byte entry as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imquk_3oFf4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imquk_3oFf4
  - sharken 7y ago
    The awesome commented code can be found in this Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fzzs4u/memories_256_byte_msdos_intro_commented_code/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fzzs4u/memorie...
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skrebbel 7y ago
I'd like to submit a small correction: the PC 64k winner. Eg there's this in the Amiga 64k compo: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85248 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85248 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s66OgcwqalA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s66OgcwqalA) It also looks like a techno video, but a good one :-)

bane 7y ago

More specifically, this is the compo results. https://www.pouet.net/party.php?which=1550&when=2020 https://www.pouet.net/party.php?which=1550&when=2020

yread 7y ago
Cool stuff. But why aren't there more videos? Even if I wanted to download and run random executables Vivaldi (and probably Symantec, too) blocks the download.
- skrebbel 7y ago
  The party is just over. Give it a week and many more prods will have youtube links. Capturing a demo properly for youtube is non-trivial (especially on other platforms than PC), and a couple of people have specialized in this. Expect a whole bunch of uploads soon enough.
- bane 7y ago
  The twitch stream from the party is archived here for now https://www.twitch.tv/revisionparty https://www.twitch.tv/revisionparty

rapsey 7y ago

Lots of game developers and companies have their origins in the demo scene

pnako 7y ago

They were even able to run the Shader Showdown competition online! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRD1gCX7fk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRD1gCX7fk For people who don't know what it is: it's a live coding competition where 2 competitors have 25 minutes to code a graphical effect (using shader language) in front of a live audience They use a tool called Bonzomatic which you can get for various platforms.

lmm 7y ago

It's official recognition that makes it easier to justify activities that preserve this heritage. Schoolteachers have an argument for spending time on it. Museums have an argument for including it. At the micro level it might become easier to use a community hall or similar space for a demoscene event. It's not going to be a day-and-night change. But it can make a lot of small things go better.