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GitHub was better even without these features than GitLab tho. GitLab UI is slow and un-intuitive.

danShumway 6y ago
I do not understand this kind of brand loyalty. Even if you're not interested in using Gitlab yourself, the competition and user migrations are clearly turning Github into a better service. You benefit from Microsoft's need to court those users, even if you never touch Gitlab. Just take the newly reduced prices and free features in your favorite service and be happy.
- romanovcode 6y ago
  I am not loyal to GitHub at all, I was very excited and one of first users of GitLab, the CI component was amazing. I am just saying things like it is.
- BoorishBears 6y ago
  Not sure how saying "This one product is better than the other" is brand loyalty... I mean, they could have added "in my opinion", but I don't think it's too hard to assume they're referring to their opinion and not unilaterally declaring their word as law?
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > I do not understand this kind of brand loyalty. What are you on about? They didn't mention any loyalty to a brand. They said qualitatively what they preferred about one product to another.
djaque 6y ago
I'm not sure about that. I've self hosted gitlab for the past four years and have had no issues performance wise and the UI feels pretty much the same as for github in terms of bein intuitive.
- number6 6y ago
  Did this two because of a) its selfhosted b) better CI/CD (At this time) c) docker repository
bearjaws 6y ago
I fail to see how Gitlab's UI is not intuitive, for the most part 90% of the GitHub functionality is in 3 menus. It does get complicated when you start adding kubernetes clusters and more of the Gitlab gold features, but even then I think its well managed. As far as speed goes, it is slower than GitHub, but has gotten a lot better over the last year. Just browsing around right now it loads within 1 second for pretty much anything besides pull requests.
- apocalyptic0n3 6y ago
  > As far as speed goes, it is slower than GitHub, but has gotten a lot better over the last year. Just browsing around right now it loads within 1 second for pretty much anything besides pull requests. And that goes down even further when self-hosting. We're hosting ours (700+ projects, a dozen active users, 40GB worth of repos, and a half dozen active CI Runners) on a $80 Linode with a dozen other internal services that are constantly being used and we see 400-700ms loads on most pages. The performance is fantastic, frankly. And the CI/CD is the best I've used (comparing against Jenkins, Bamboo, Travis, and Circle)
emilycook 6y ago
Hey! GitLab employee here. The speed of the site has been on our radar too, we have a handbook page [1] detailing our metrics and our goals. Ultimately we want to have a speed index of less than 2 seconds for .com, but we know we aren't quite there yet. As for the UI being unintuitive, I'm sorry to hear that. Everyone has different UI preferences so it's understandable. If you want, we're holding a competition right now [2] for anyone who writes a review of GitLab vs GitHub if there are any specific features within GitHub's UI that you like better! [1] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/engineering/performance/ https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/engineering/performance/ [2] https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/04/14/github-free-for-teams/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/04/14/github-free-for-tea...
odiroot 6y ago
No it wasn't. Gitlab CI is such a great thing and well integrated with the main product. Github is nowhere near. Another thing is better branch protection, more granular branch merging and review policies. That's just from the top of my head.

I do not understand this kind of brand loyalty. Even if you're not interested in using Gitlab yourself, the competition and user migrations are clearly turning Github into a better service. You benefit from Microsoft's need to court those users, even if you never touch Gitlab. Just take the newly reduced prices and free features in your favorite service and be happy.

romanovcode 6y ago
I am not loyal to GitHub at all, I was very excited and one of first users of GitLab, the CI component was amazing. I am just saying things like it is.
BoorishBears 6y ago
Not sure how saying "This one product is better than the other" is brand loyalty... I mean, they could have added "in my opinion", but I don't think it's too hard to assume they're referring to their opinion and not unilaterally declaring their word as law?
chrisseaton 6y ago
> I do not understand this kind of brand loyalty. What are you on about? They didn't mention any loyalty to a brand. They said qualitatively what they preferred about one product to another.

djaque 6y ago

I'm not sure about that. I've self hosted gitlab for the past four years and have had no issues performance wise and the UI feels pretty much the same as for github in terms of bein intuitive.

number6 6y ago
Did this two because of a) its selfhosted b) better CI/CD (At this time) c) docker repository

bearjaws 6y ago

I fail to see how Gitlab's UI is not intuitive, for the most part 90% of the GitHub functionality is in 3 menus. It does get complicated when you start adding kubernetes clusters and more of the Gitlab gold features, but even then I think its well managed. As far as speed goes, it is slower than GitHub, but has gotten a lot better over the last year. Just browsing around right now it loads within 1 second for pretty much anything besides pull requests.

apocalyptic0n3 6y ago
> As far as speed goes, it is slower than GitHub, but has gotten a lot better over the last year. Just browsing around right now it loads within 1 second for pretty much anything besides pull requests. And that goes down even further when self-hosting. We're hosting ours (700+ projects, a dozen active users, 40GB worth of repos, and a half dozen active CI Runners) on a $80 Linode with a dozen other internal services that are constantly being used and we see 400-700ms loads on most pages. The performance is fantastic, frankly. And the CI/CD is the best I've used (comparing against Jenkins, Bamboo, Travis, and Circle)

emilycook 6y ago

Hey! GitLab employee here. The speed of the site has been on our radar too, we have a handbook page [1] detailing our metrics and our goals. Ultimately we want to have a speed index of less than 2 seconds for .com, but we know we aren't quite there yet. As for the UI being unintuitive, I'm sorry to hear that. Everyone has different UI preferences so it's understandable. If you want, we're holding a competition right now [2] for anyone who writes a review of GitLab vs GitHub if there are any specific features within GitHub's UI that you like better! [1] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/engineering/performance/ https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/engineering/performance/ [2] https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/04/14/github-free-for-teams/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/04/14/github-free-for-tea...

odiroot 6y ago

No it wasn't. Gitlab CI is such a great thing and well integrated with the main product. Github is nowhere near. Another thing is better branch protection, more granular branch merging and review policies. That's just from the top of my head.