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Anders Tegnell - author of Swedish strategy says that the measures are working and deaths are concentrated in Somali, Iraqi and Syria - born population. https:

by chewz 7y ago

Anders Tegnell - author of Swedish strategy says that the measures are working and deaths are concentrated in Somali, Iraqi and Syria - born population. https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/coronaviruset/folkhalsomyndigheten-hall-presskonferens/ https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/coronaviruset/folkhalsomynd... https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/2Gx0Ev/fodda-i-somalia-turkiet-och-irak-far-oftare-covid-19 https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/2Gx0Ev/fodda-i-somalia-... Country of birth Number of cases Over-representation Somalia 283 7 Turkiet 150 5,1 Irak 242 2,9 Finland 188 2,3 Eritrea 55 2,1 Syrien 197 1,8 Iran 83 1,8 Forna Jugoslavien 60 1,6 So pehaps this is what's been planned after all. Remember that Swedish eugenics laws lapsed only in 1976. https://www.economist.com/europe/1997/08/28/here-of-all-places https://www.economist.com/europe/1997/08/28/here-of-all-plac...

simtel20 7y ago
But it's not stopping the spread. A friend's office in Västerås just had a case and only now went wfh, while that friend already wfh but still drops off and picks his kids up from school and is getting symptoms now. The comment about the deaths being primarily in particular communities sounds like the opposite of working, though. Can you provide context regarding why it's working if people in some communities are dying? * Edit: thanks for clarifying. I didn't realize that your comment about measures working as intended was hinting at a eugenics motives of the policymakers when I first read it, but do now.
- chewz 7y ago
  Well the real reason there is no lockdown in Sweden is that the owners of the country said No to lockdown. The rest is just unique Swedish doublespeak. https://www.ft.com/content/3b8ec9fe-6eb8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b https://www.ft.com/content/3b8ec9fe-6eb8-11ea-89df-41bea0557... > An estimate from The Economist finds that the value of Swedish billionaires’ fortunes is equivalent to a quarter of the country’s annual gdp. Only in tax havens such as Cyprus or Monaco, or captured economies such as Russia or Georgia, are plutocrats more dominant https://www.economist.com/briefing/2019/11/28/in-sweden-billionaires-are-surprisingly-popular https://www.economist.com/briefing/2019/11/28/in-sweden-bill...
mistermann 7y ago
Perhaps. Or perhaps cultural behavioral norms, or even just lack of understanding due to language barriers is to blame. Strategic, covert genocide seems fairly unlikely to me, but then I'm relying purely on personal heuristics, which in turn rely upon my limited knowledge of Sweden.
dx034 7y ago
Maybe it's just concentrated on poorer parts of the population? Generally poorer people tend to live closer together and can't afford staying home when they're sick. Immigrants tend to be poorer in most countries, including Sweden. I'm not sure how it helps to name place of birth for infected, finding out the actual factors determining the spread would be more helpful.

by chewz 7y ago

simtel20 7y ago

But it's not stopping the spread. A friend's office in Västerås just had a case and only now went wfh, while that friend already wfh but still drops off and picks his kids up from school and is getting symptoms now. The comment about the deaths being primarily in particular communities sounds like the opposite of working, though. Can you provide context regarding why it's working if people in some communities are dying? * Edit: thanks for clarifying. I didn't realize that your comment about measures working as intended was hinting at a eugenics motives of the policymakers when I first read it, but do now.

chewz 7y ago
Well the real reason there is no lockdown in Sweden is that the owners of the country said No to lockdown. The rest is just unique Swedish doublespeak. https://www.ft.com/content/3b8ec9fe-6eb8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b https://www.ft.com/content/3b8ec9fe-6eb8-11ea-89df-41bea0557... > An estimate from The Economist finds that the value of Swedish billionaires’ fortunes is equivalent to a quarter of the country’s annual gdp. Only in tax havens such as Cyprus or Monaco, or captured economies such as Russia or Georgia, are plutocrats more dominant https://www.economist.com/briefing/2019/11/28/in-sweden-billionaires-are-surprisingly-popular https://www.economist.com/briefing/2019/11/28/in-sweden-bill...

mistermann 7y ago

Perhaps. Or perhaps cultural behavioral norms, or even just lack of understanding due to language barriers is to blame. Strategic, covert genocide seems fairly unlikely to me, but then I'm relying purely on personal heuristics, which in turn rely upon my limited knowledge of Sweden.

dx034 7y ago

Maybe it's just concentrated on poorer parts of the population? Generally poorer people tend to live closer together and can't afford staying home when they're sick. Immigrants tend to be poorer in most countries, including Sweden. I'm not sure how it helps to name place of birth for infected, finding out the actual factors determining the spread would be more helpful.